MATCO TOOLS Franchise Complaints

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• Oh, and a quick THANK YOU to all those that have emailed me! I certainly appreciate the information and the validation is awesome. .

• GOOGLE SEARCH-

  Search: ” Matco Tools”

  ON THE FIRST PAGE – IT IS NOT A SECRET ANY MORE!!!!!

• Junior, I dont know you or have ever spoken to you, but Ican tell you that I am here to rip matco apart, if you have a problem with that, get with me. Junior boy, you dont have a handle on me or ever will, you nor matco.I am not stopping until I get satisifaction,I will continue to blast matco and their deceitfull programs and I will see them in court.Go sell your overseas tools, continue to over price them and mark them up above list and cheat your customers, call Jerry soon, because matco has a time frame for your failure, like it or not.

• You can personally thank me when your tool prices go up, matco is going to raise them to help pay for their lawsuit, also having to ship from overseas, shipping is going up also. You and Cary boy can run along back to the other side and praise your upcoming failures. Remember Jerry can be reached at MarksandKlein.com, both of you will need them soon.

• There is no one here going to stop Debbie,Mike,Guest, or myself from telling it like it is, you dont know how we have been treated by our D.M.’s,R.M.’s or matco, we will be heard and they are starting to listen, because it is only going to get louder and louder, this train is going to plow right into Matco’s corporate office. By the way their will be hundreds on board including you junior,cary boy and matco boy, come aboard,we have room for you, you may be entitled to some money back too.Matco is going to be sharing, if there is anything left after the FEDS get hold of them.

• They must already be worried – Announcement from Matco yesterdeay =
  PRICES WILL INCREASE JAN 1, 2012

  no kidding………..

• Guys and gals we need to continue to contact more people and let them know , I have hit numerous sites, including tech sites ( letting them know where matco tools are really made), franchise sites,etc.Lets be loud, blast matco, blast d.m’s and r.m.’s and make it hell for them.I am going to start notifying other banks to watch out for this type of deceitfullness, and loan institutions. I hit sites every day and all day, please do the same guys. There will be a bunch of ad’s popping up on craigs list around the nation,I was told about this from another pissed off distributor.Go Get Em Jerry.

• tommy talked to three today,there getting ready to dance!!!!!

• Debbie, I can believe that, I am not suprised, the shipping, the lawsuit, the feds, they have something to be concerned about now. Lets get louder and louder, tell everyone, I am trying to think of a way to notify the media, I do know someone who works for a t.v station here in town. We also should look at running bill boards around the country, we would need to get donations and enough people.

• “Well-Behaved Women Seldom Make History”

  Well, NOT well behaved, NOT quiet, and as it so happens, NOT WRONG :)

  Tommy – you’re right!!!! NOT going away, NOT being quiet :) woohoo

• Mike, good job, lets keep going, I will try and contact you tomorrow.Did you get hold of Alan Rhodes ?

• Debbie, If you have a UFOC, try to copy some of the terminated distr pages and fax to me , I will call them at my expense, I do not care where they are located, I will call them.

• tommorrow, one of the other tool co guys lives by him,talked to him today, he said he would get me a number i will follow through i got nothing to feel bad about i already lost everything.ALMOST, BUT NO MY PRIDE

• We are all going to make history, because we are going to change the tool business and the way franchises are done.Like it or not Matco, here we come. I am not for Obama, but he said change is coming and I do agree with that and matco realizes that too.Sorry guys, I dont mean to hurt the tool business, but pulling stickers off of tools that says ‘ made in mexico” is a lie, that is another one of matco’s lies, my d.m . told us to remove the sticker,why, because they are cheap tools, by the way any current distributors need to keep some of those stickers, no matter where it says.

• I think everyone here has lost something in one way or another due to matco’s malicious ways and deceitful practices. But thats ok , because we are being listen to and someone is going to pay and pay big, look at what theman (Jerry) did to snapon.He made an example out of them and he is going to rip matco apart.

• I am going to relax now and think about what I am going to do with matco’s money when we get it. I will be on at 7 am tomorrow and I will be contacting some of you. GOOD NITE.

• Ok, so Junior says: ” a route is made up of mechanics, and they all have the potential to buy like on any route, it’s up to you to get them to want what you offer. And price? If price were truly the issue then how the hell is Snap On still in business?”

  In my town Snapon comes and goes like the wind.

  A route is made up of mechanics, I was a mechanic once long, long ago. 40+ years ago. Guess what, it is just as hard today to ‘make’ it as a mechanic as it was 40+ years ago. I could not live on what I made alone. Let alone buy tools from the top three tool companies. Maybe even harder today…

  Matco gives you a potential 325+ customers. Lets be real…. 10% of those people can’t keep their kids in diapers without assistance. 20% are paying child support which adds up to 10x your weekly tool payment. Depending on your competition your sharing your tool payment with 2 or three other people. And 15% of those people owe more in tool bills than they will ever be able to pay.
  50% of my initial customer base of 325 have been laid off in the last 4 years. And 80% of them would rather remain laid off than work for$10/hr, because they are better off.

  So all of you that suggest that you just aren’t good at sales, must be living in another world, your not living in mine.

  You have to operate by the ‘proven system’ and go by the Matco Plan… Lie to and deceive your customer, suck up the bad debt, that is, if you arent tough enough to take the food from families in trying times.

  How many of you live in the communities where you sell? How many of you support your neighborhoods? How many of your customers have a health plan or retirement plan?

  Your interested in starting a Matco Franchise, you better get to know your potential customers a little closer.

• I forgot to answer, how does Snap On keep on going? EC my fried EC. Get your customer on a PSA and you have him hooked. Just make sure he still has something left for your TP account or you will run dry.

  Everyone knows Snap On hands out EC paper like there is no tomorrow. Get some one approved for a Matco PSA… GOOD LUCK!

• Junior WHY IS SNAP ON STILL IN BUSINESS WELL LETS SEE superior marketing ( any movie with tools in it has snap on tools Transformers Iron Man take a trip to universal studios and go back stage snap on tools the list goes on. Oh wait research and development SnapOn has this department matco has a simular group but it is called get it cheaper from china. I am a sucessfull Business owner that sells Matco tools but don’t even try to tell me that Matco puts in the same investment into there product that SnapOn does. Would be nice if they did. MATCO ( M mac A allied T tool C company ) allied builds matco toolboxes which are the best in my book just not built by matco try to google Matco tool box plant james towm ny good luck. Don’t piss down my back and tell me it is raining. 1 more A dog knows the difference between being triped on and being kicked. See you at EXPO Junior just goto the ISN EXPO in JUNE don’t buy just go well you will buy but just don’t tell Matco or mabey you should so they would pull there head out of there a** Check out the picture quality on the new pro1000 compare it to anything else on the market has some great features yes but wtf looks like grandpa’s old tv screen made in james town sure it is china or some other poor county more like it.

• Some good reading, just a lot of nonsense.

  Mac Allied Tool Company…formed in 1946, started building toolboxes for MAC Tools, a company who sold tools.

  Move Forward to 1976, MAC and MATCO split, as a dealer you had your choice, stay with MAC or go with MATCO.

  1984 Chicago Phenumatic buys MATCO, then 1986 Sells to Danaher, Around the same time MATCO stops building toolboxes for MAC.

  MATCO owns the toolbox plant in Jamestown, surprised you never got to go on a tour of the plant, a lot of people have.

  @Former, have no problem getting guys approved for a PSA, about 67% and have over $500,000 on the street in PSA, not to mention a sizeable TP.

  I don’t worry about my competition, or what MATCO is doing. I only worry what I need to do. When I start worrying about my competiton, or how many guys don’t want to work, then I start loosing focus on my business, which is to sell tools.

  @Tommy, why is it you talk about winning all this money, but the only current lawsuit matco is involved in is the TD Bank think with Guest? And I can’t personally attack you so I will ask you this, if we have proven most everything you said to be fiction, how possibly are you going to win in court, on a lawsuit that you haven’t even filled yet?

• Going to Expo???
  – IS Matco really ‘giving’ you a deal??

  5 days/4 nights = $1,578/team
  includes 3 lunches
  and big deal dinner at Caesars Palace
  5 Day / 4 Night Package
  Distributor Team
  $ 1,578

  OR STAY NEXT DOOR,
  ****AND SAVE SAVE SAVE – SAVE OVER A THOUSAND DOLLARS*****

  pay for your own 3 lunches and 1 dinner and SAVE $1072
  Flamingo Las Vegas
  3555 Las Vegas Boulevard South, Las Vegas, NV 89109
  Total Total: $506 ($253 per person) – Air Fare round trip from Denver, Deluxe Room)
  Check in:
  Sun, Feb 26, 2012
  Check out:
  Thu, Mar 1, 2012
  Guests:2
  Rooms:1

• Tommy NEVER seen a MATCO Tool Made in Mexico, you will have to let me know which tool that is, I would like to see that?

• Tommy. How soon you forget. When I left the truck for the first time I became a District Manager for Matco (I was a top ten DBR prior, and a top 10 DM), you found my personal email and sent me an email crying about failing in the business and that I should join your cause. I told you back then as I am telling you now, you failed not Matco failed you. I spent 10 years with Matco and know the system inside and out. It’s nearly perfect. I sold franchises, I sold tools, and I seperated distributors that wanted or needed out.

  So don’t blow sunshine up my ass because I know you and I know why you’re here. You didn’t follow the plan, you thought you were smarter just as you think you are here. Don’t you get it? Your product was you. It’s about service and building a reputation of offering the best service. And only you can do that, not Matco. No one said it was easy cupcake. So this is why I suggested you, back then and again today, that you look for a job where dirrection is easy to follow.
  LEAVE SMALL BUISNESS OWNERSHIP TO THOSE THAT ARE WILLING TO PUT IN THE HARD WORK REQUIRED TO WIN!

  Just for your information, when I left as a DM I purchased another Matco truck, ran it to a another top finish. Sold it a year ago to buy a car dealership. Couldn’t have done it with out the money I made as a distributor for Matco Tools. You see, I haven’t worked with Matco in 15 months, but I can personally say that I will gladly testify in their behalf, as an ex DBR (2x), and an ex DM. I have zero bad to say about Matco’s offering to true small business owners.

  Move on Tommy and friends. You failed, not you failed because of…

• Don’t be lead by lies and believe you failed – Matco failed you.

  MATCO TOOLS Franchise Report Alleges Distributor Churning November 29,
  2011

  MATCO TOOLS Class Action Lawsuit, “Secret” Sales Projections November
  22, 2011

  FRANCHISE LAWSUIT Alleges Matco Tools Scam, TD Bank Fraud November 15,
  2011

  Matco failed you.

• Remember Matco’s minions are here to:

  Discredit
  Disrupt
  Derail
  Distract &
  Distort the truth

  BUT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
  DEBBIE
  DON’T & WON’T
  DISTRACT OR
  DISTORT THE TRUTH

  DEBBIE DOESN’T DO DEFEAT!

• I just heard from a distributor that told me he
  stopped
  going to Expo for those same reasons!!

  however Matco will NOT let you attend
  unless you buy their package.

  The last Vegas trip Matco charged us around $240 per night per person, when I called Ceasars randomly I was quoted $!40.00 per night for a mini suite.

  Here is a better one: the vendors at the shows do not pay the Hotel, they pay Matco who buys the whole EXPO package at one giant bulk price then resells it to us and the vendors…the Oakley rep told me Matco charged them $14000.00 (fourteen thousand dollars) for that little 12′ X 12′ booth, they were not happy about it…so the whole Expo along with all the awards they pretend to pay for and the dinner they pretend to pay for and the give-aways they pretend to pay for and the free rooms for top franchisee’s they pretend to pay for….

  IS MATCO “PAYING” FOR ANYTHING…………………………..

  why would they????? the poor, going bankrupt, trying to do everything right distributors are the ones on the Hook for the whole deal!

  how very SAD is that?????

• i like the one where 3 years ago matco said that there was nothing wrong with the economy but they cut out all the extras like the christmas party and things like that. they were feeling it too but didnt want to admit it.

• tommy u make me laugh, the last 4 times i told you move on to your next failure u did what i said, after 4 years of beating a dead horse u did it…wow sucks for debbie, jerry, rantless,former, so on and so fourth. Have fun on your train wreck to stow choo choooooo. Sorry admin but this BS is making me giggle

• Richard, I have to find it again.

  While searching the Internet I had come across a Danaher financial report that SHOWED MATCO TOOLS POSTED A LOSS – their sales were down – but yet, Distributors were still held to the FICTITIOUS National Purchase Average

  The last company I worked for actually SAID, There IS a recession but we CHOOSE NOT to participate.

  How the HELL do you CHOOSE NOT to participate????

  About as dumb as Matco telling distributors THEY failed………..when actually,
  MATCO FAILED THEM!!!!!!!!!!!

  Damn, **YOU** ARE PROOF!
  It is indecent the damage they cause, the lives they ruin, the financial LOSES for which they are SOLELY responsible.

  Yeah, they should not have pissed off THIS woman !! HELL hath no fury………

  The DAY I could no longer CO sign my daughter’s college loan – was THE DAY Matco MESSED with my kids – NOBODY! messes with my kids!

  IT’s ON!!!!!!!

• giggle?? that seems just silly…………

  why would anyone giggle? over Financial Investments of $100,000 LOST
  why would anyone giggle? over VETS losing all the money they could borrow AFTER THEY SERVED THEIR COUNTRY??
  why would anyone giggle? over children’s college funds depleted
  why would anyone giggle? over HARD working, dedicated, determined distristributors having

• wow debbie I guess i can giggle…….. that would be my financial investement…., maybe more and dont regret it, wow i am a vet no money lost after serving my country, wow I have a college savings plan for my daughters and i am a hard working dedicated detirmined distributor. how silly is that.

• i find it humorous that there is little middle ground here. Junior can you honestly say Matco has never done any wrong…ever? That is just hard to believe. as for the rest at some point there is blame to be put on yourselves. I’m not saying that matco did not play a part in success or failure. if they projected false earnings they should be liable. there is a double standard I’ve been on both ends of it. when i was doing bad i hardly got a favor now doing well i get a little more leeway. i mean I’m fat but i don’t blame McDonald’s. i do blame the fact that i love to eat and that has caused this.the truth is there are good and bad apples everywhere. some d.m.’s go above and beyond. some tow the company line andf some know if they don’t recruit there ass will be fired. this causes them to try and stick in new dist where they do not belong.

• The Holiday Season is clearly upon us…
  I’m all a giggle with compassion…

  The Season of Giving….
  Giving your time, 60-80 hours a week
  Giving your money, all that you borrowed (and then some)
  Giving your trust to deceitful DMs and RMs that only
  Give YOU lies

  Maybe “goodwill” only applies to “men”

• [redacted], the first fix to denial is to admit you have a problem and matco is not willing to admit it.You three boys have Jerry’s number, so keep it close because you will be needing it soon.Matco will fail you, just as they have many other people, guess what, they will be paying, first the feds and then the former distributors, I will be counting your money right to the bank.P.S, I will call you and thank you. Cha-ching.

  Boys, I am not going anywhere, I am not shutting up, I am going to be loud, I dont run from a problem like you boys, I meet it face to face.Matco has problems and I am here to let everyone know, at whatever expense.

  P.S. You can be mad at me , when your tool prices go up and they will be, thanks guys.

  [Please refrain from name-calling & personal attacks or risk suspension. Thanks. ADMIN]

• Matcoboy, Matco has been served, thanks and I look forward to slamming matco some more, dont forget to call Jerry, you will need him soon. Whether I get anything or not, at least the feds will, and your tool prices will be going up, so go ahead and raise your tool prices on your truck above list, as per d.m, to cover your expenses and I will continue to let everyone know. Thats what matco taught us, or are they wrong? How much over list do you charge on them overseas made tools?

• Junior, matcoboy, and caryboy, sound like people that run from problems, unlike myself , I face them, I don’t run or hide, I never will. Go sell your over priced tools and good luck.

• ****EXPO***

  So, just HOW MUCH would a distributor have to spend at Expo to actually realize the “great deals” or “savings”?

  They are charging $1572 for a distributor team.

  So, OK you get 4 days in Vegas – three lunches, and one dinner,,,,,,,,,,,,,, oh and ALL those ‘great deals’

  Well, the EXPO deals are an extra 5% volume discount on some things, or an extra 10% on some

  Guess the biggies are the tool box add on deals………………….. so, ok, admittedly those are pretty good BUT, how many toolboxes can the average distributor afford to order? It is still a pretty steep financial commitment! AND how many toolbox combinations would you really WANT to order.

  I’ve sold a lot of tool boxes. MOST guys would like to CHOOSE themselves exactly what they get. Colors, how big, locker? maybe side cabinet

  SOOOOOO, say you DO take advantage of a free add on deal and purchase $5000 in tools

  You “saved” maybe $1000 – big deal – you SPENT $8000 – $10,000

  The supposed ‘saving’ of $1000 didn’t even cover the COST of going to EXPO

  HUGE HYPE – NOT SO GREAT DEALS – AND THE HOTEL DEALS SUCK

  YOU COULD STAY THE SAME DATES, AT A HOTEL NEXT DOOR, FOR A
  **THOUSAND DOLLARS LESS**

  HYPE, just hype

• Everyone has blame to share in this, from former dist, current distr and matco. We were lied to, mislead and provided false projections, without this there would be no one to blame, but ourselves. Matco chose their destiny by allowing D.M.’s to lie and mislead potential distributors to sign on and what a easy life it was. Not only were they deceitful to potential distr, but they were cheating every American out there by misleading the bank and having every American foot the bill, taxpayers dollars as alleged by the lawsuit. Another big company screwing tax payers out of money.

• Why goto EXPO ? New products New products New products you get time to spend with venders get new ideas from other distributors the list goes on. How to pay for it I am going to say this slow P R E S A L E that is presale. Push tool boxes now push add ons now example from last year bought 4225 at full list came with free 4025SL sold 4025SL at full list and then sold 4225 at full list. I did this several different times prior to going to EXPO which more than paid for the trip. Who said you must stay at the hotel matco picks not so you just have to be smart well it helps.

• Tommy sounds like you are trying to compare Matco to the Forclosure problem. Its all the banks fault its all Matco’s fault. Where is the personal responsibility ? If you bought a house you couldn’t pay for or a business you couldn’t run why as a taxpayer do need to bail you out. Thomas Edison failed a 1000 times before he invented the light bulb who did he blame for 1-999 what would life be like right now if at #879 he started whining like a little school girl and quit.

• Oh dear……………….. TLMAN you clearly are NOT a distributor, guess that means you ARE WORKING for Matco, a plant,

  YOU SAY:
  Who said you must stay at the hotel matco picks not so you just have to be smart well it helps.

  WELL MATCO DOES, OF COURSE!!!!!!!!!!

  THE ONLY DBRS ATTENDING EXPO THAT ARE *NOT* REQUIRED TO STAY AT THE HOST HOTEL – ARE DBRS THAT **LIVE** WITHIN 50 MILES OF THE SITE

  ***********funny, I READ my Franchise Agreement.,

  BOTTOM LINE – EXPO = HYPE, nothing more…………

• Excuse me, a little History lesson………..

  Thomas Edison – HIMSELF stated,

  He did not FAIL – he simply succeeded in finding 900 ways not to invent a light bulb

  Besides, NONE of the distributors that were FORCED to file Bankruptcy did so willingly

  THEY ALL HAD EXCELLENT CREDIT GOING IN

  Ask me how I know! Of course, the “recruits” MUST have good credit to get that FAT insured loan……………………

  Then Matco watches them fail
  And SIMPLY RECRUITS ANOTHER…………………………..

  and there lies the Fraud

• For your info, American taxpayers bail out sba loans that have gone bad. What is that called, screwing American taxpayers. Fictitious numbers to a bank to get someone approved is called fraud.

• Matco doesn’t do anything WRONG?

  I think I mentioned before I saw someone on the Terminated Distributor list I recognized. So I called him and talked to him only to find out that my DM, (who has never done anything wrong, or lied, or completed a false survey, WHATEVER) started a franchise with this Distributor. This Distributor signed up, received his “List of Calls” then went to training. When he got back he loaded up his truck went out on his “List of Calls” only to find out they were already getting service from a Matco Distributor for over two years.

  Question #1: How does a DM give a distributor a route which is already getting serviced by Matco?

  Question #2: How does a RM sign off on that “List of Calls” and not know someone else is servicing those customers already.

  Question #3: Shouldn’t this kind of behavior and laziness and fraud be grounds for termination?

• Another Question:

  So if I know my route was falsely surveyed by this DM and another Distributor, who was in less than three months and given back all his invested money and a little to boot, was given a false suvey to start up his route. Why would Matco think I am to blame for not being at 80% of the National Average?

• The whole basis of your potential business is that List of Calls, and they neglect to even know if it is valid. I have written proof that it is a ‘fabricated’ list, and that no one ever personally visited the ‘calls’ to verify they were in fact even a business at that location.

  This is fraud that goes all the way to the top. Who ultimately should take responsibility for the fabrication?

• Another matco deceitful practice, keep em coming, ther is a whole bunch of this going on.

• Sam – “i find it humorous that there is little middle ground here. Junior can you honestly say Matco has never done any wrong…ever?”
  Junior – No Sam I never made this statement. Here’s another example of why DBR’s fail…they don’t read or comprehend what they are supposed to read. You should have had someone smarter than you read the important stuff to you and explain it, maybe pictures in the UFOC would have helped folks like you.

  Tommy said “There are only three losers here and that is Junior,caryboy and matcoboy”.
  Junior – Loser? I never failed at Matco Tommy. I understood my role the entire time I was with Matco. You however missed that part. Your responsibility was to actually put in the time and effort to build YOUR business. If you wanted Matco to do it for you then you should asked them to change the UFOC just for you.

  Debbie – “So, just HOW MUCH would a distributor have to spend at Expo to actually realize the “great deals” or “savings”?”
  Junior – Another example why DBR’s fail. They think they are smarter than year’s worth of best practices. You reinvented the wheel Debbie. You came up with a reason why your idea was better and when you failed you now want to blame Matco. Unbelievable.

  Tommy – “Matco chose their destiny by allowing D.M.’s to lie and mislead potential distributors to sign on and what a easy life it was.”
  Junior – I find it very hard to believe a DM said it was the easy life. But let’s pretend for a moment one did, shame on you for not asking questions of current and past DBR’s to verify his story. Then had you read and understood the UFOC you certainly would have discovered the DM’s statement was fishy considering NOTHING in the UFOC or any other official Matco document has such a statement in it.

  Relentless – “Matco doesn’t do anything WRONG?”
  Junior – Every business makes mistakes, but what I’m reading here is a bunch of whiners that can’t accept the fact that their failure was based on their own actions or lack thereof. So far I have not read ONE shred of true evidence to substantiate stated claims.

  I’ve already taken too much time here and I have a car store to run, so I’ll close by finishing right where I started. Tommy company and friends, you are a perfect example of what’s wrong with this country today. It’s someone else’s fault. You are a winner and it just isn’t possible that you could ever fail. From the day a DM stepped foot into your home you were no longer responsible for reviewing material, asking questions, doing research, and make adult decisions. It ALL falls on the shoulders of someone else.

  It’s my estimate you haven’t succeeded in any other venture or job role nor will you until you learn your role in life. Stop talking for a moment and look at you. Ask yourself if all this bullcrap has been good for you or your family. Your decision to act in this fashion and focus 100% of the blame on someone else was another poor decision on your part. You weren’t even smart enough to move on and begin rebuilding yourself and family. This is consuming your life right now and it too is an example of what failures you are. (someone had to say it)

  Good luck to you anyhow, and you better hope Matco doesn’t subpoena successful distributors like me to testify against failed distributors like you. Nothing worse than having failed with the same opportunity as hundreds before and after you and having to face them in person. Makes a person look and feel small.

• The numbers say it all. I hope they do call you to testify, maybe then you will have the balls to say who you really are, Junior, what kind of name is that, ‘Junior, please take the stand’. We accept failure, we do not accept lies,deceit, and more lies by matco or anyone else. Junior, go sell a car, You are about the biggest [redacted], matco has. Can you explain the failure rate? How many people succeed? What about the federal lawsuit, can you explain that or is it made up? You were not around when we signed doc’s, how the hell do you know what took place, [redacted]? You dont, There must be a reason you left matco, did you see something coming?

  [Please refrain from name-calling & personal attacks or risk suspension. Thanks. ADMIN]

• Yes, I am pointing fingers at matco, because if the business dealings were done without lies, promises, and they were honest with us, we all could have made a valid decision, therefore, the would be no one to blame, but matco chose this route with their dishonest D.M.’s and R.M.’s. No one was at the table when the signing took place other than us and the d.m., how can you say the d.m. didn’t lie, matco has dishonest franchises and employees.