122 Responses to “CUPPY’S: Help Update the List of Locations, Status”

1. Mary P on September 2nd, 2008 7:57 pm

   I know that Christiansburg, VA, Houston, TX, and Midland, TX are all closed and bankrupt.

2. Mary P on September 2nd, 2008 8:02 pm

   I know that the two kiosks in Michigan are also bankrupt.

3. ADMIN on September 3rd, 2008 6:21 am

   I’ve marked the two kiosks in Michigan as closed, and added Christiansburg, VA, Houston, TX, and Midland, TX. Wasn’t there a closure in Arlington, TX.

   I added Chicago, south of Midway airport which I realized was doomed as soon as I saw it. Super busy street (too busy), low visibility for the kiosk and prominent Dunkin Donuts and Starbucks nearby.

   What happens to those drive through units? Is it still sitting there?

4. ADMIN on September 3rd, 2008 10:41 am

   Here is the store location list that was on the Cuppy’s Coffee website November, 2006. There are 70 locations listed with 21 listed as open and the rest “Coming soon” Only 11 of the 70 appear on the current website as og Aug. 2008.

   The stores with question marks are those that don’t appear on the current website. What happened to them? Can you clarify? Are some open with different town names?

   1 Tuscaloosa Alabama Coming Soon
   2 Huntsville Alabama Coming Soon
   ? Tempe Arizona Coming Soon
   ? Payson Arizona Open
   ? Fresno California Coming Soon
   ? Manteca California Coming Soon
   ? Saugus California Coming Soon
   ? Porterville California Coming Soon
   ? Temecula California Coming Soon
   ? Covina California Coming Soon
   ? Brawley California Coming Soon
   ? Winchester California Open
   ? Hemet California Open
   ? Greeley Colorado Coming Soon
   ? Aurora Colorado Coming Soon
   ? Torrington Connecticut Coming Soon
   ? Fort Walton Beach Florida Coming Soon
   18 Jacksonville Beach Florida Open
   ? Cape Coral Florida Coming Soon
   ? Tarpon Springs Florida Coming Soon
   21 Ft. Myers Florida Coming Soon
   ? Bradenton Florida Coming Soon
   ? Punta Gorda Florida Coming Soon
   ? Crestview Florida Coming Soon
   ? Plant City Florida Coming Soon
   ? Wintergarden Florida Coming Soon
   ? Orlando Florida Coming Soon
   ? Gulf Breeze Florida Coming Soon
   ? Destin Florida Open
   ? Milton Florida Open
   31 Panama City Beach Florida Coming Soon
   32 Shalimar Florida Open
   ? Winston Georgia Coming Soon
   ? Loganville Georgia Coming Soon
   ? Tinley Park Illinois Coming Soon
   ? Rockton Illinois Coming Soon
   ? Crystal Lake Illinois Coming Soon
   ? Hinsdale Illinois Coming Soon
   ? Shelbyville Indiana Coming Soon
   ? Greenwood Indiana Open
   ? Dry Ridge Kentucky Coming Soon
   ? Haughton Louisiana Coming Soon
   ? Madisonville Louisiana Open
   ? Houma Louisiana Open [CLOSED]
   45 Battle Creek Michigan Coming Soon
   46 Ocean Springs Mississippi Open
   47 Gulfport Mississippi Open
   48 Las Vegas Nevada Coming Soon
   ? Cooperstown New York Coming Soon
   ? Mamaroneck New York Coming Soon
   ? Sherburne New York Open
   ? Cameron North Carolina Coming Soon
   ? Reidsville North Carolina Open
   ? Lexington North Carolina Open
   ? McMurray Pennsylvania Coming Soon
   ? Taylors South Carolina Coming Soon
   ? Chattanooga Tennessee Coming Soon
   58 Knoxville Tennessee Coming Soon
   59 Knoxville Tennessee Coming Soon
   ? Yantis Texas Coming Soon
   ? Keene Texas Coming Soon
   ? Kempner Texas Coming Soon
   ? Midland Texas Coming Soon [CLOSED]
   ? McKinney Texas Open
   ? San Antonio Texas Open
   ? Katy Texas Open
   ? El Paso Texas Open
   ? Belton Texas Open
   ? Christiansburg Virginia Open [CLOSED]
   ? LaCrosse Wisconsin Open

5. Guest on September 5th, 2008 12:55 am

   Several of these listed are bankrupt before they even got open. Several got tired of waiting on Dale to get off his butt & get build outs done so they are opening their cafe as an independant. Which I can’t blame them because Cuppy’s/Elite/Medina have done virtually nothing to support them or get them open. The lawsuits and class action lawsuit continue to multiply. Oh… the reason several are not on the website map is because Dale took only the brown nosers that really don’t know how to do anything accept kiss a$$ which means no one is keeping up with the maps on their website. It would really be too much work for someone to do that now anyway because when/if a zee actually gets open, they end up closing in 1-3 months.

6. ADMIN on September 5th, 2008 7:21 am

   Several of these listed are bankrupt before they even got open. Several got tired of waiting on Dale to get off his butt & get build outs done so they are opening their cafe as an independant.

   Guest: Can you say which ones went bankrupt and which ones went independent so I can update the list? Thanks.

7. Kelly on September 5th, 2008 8:14 am

   What is a “mobile cafe”? Does that mean the kioks is on wheels?
   Where in Elyria, OH is it, I live close to Elyria.

8. Guest on September 5th, 2008 1:01 pm

   The maps were kept up. The head of IT has his girlfriend at home do it. She was fired earlier this year. So they just added her to the other payroll and has her do all the things Will can’t do since he is so very busy with more important things. They both moved to Alabama as well.

9. Jerry Thebado on September 5th, 2008 1:14 pm

   Cuppy’s Coffee in Hanover Massachusetts is alive and well. Please fix your list!!!

10. ADMIN on September 5th, 2008 2:32 pm

    Jerry:

    Apologies and congratulations! May the Cuppy’s Coffee in Hanover Massachusetts live long and prosper!

    And may I get more accurate intell.

    Now you are in the company of Mark Twain when he said “The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.”

    Anyone else have corrections, additions?

11. Guest on September 9th, 2008 10:35 pm

    Kelly: A mobile unit is an 8′x10′ trailer on wheels.

    I personally know of two stores in the Orlando area that closed recently. One was a Java Jo’z in Oviedo, the other was a Cuppy’s in Orlando.

12. sjustice64 on September 11th, 2008 11:43 pm

    Niceville, Florida – paid but never opened

13. Danielle on September 13th, 2008 1:15 am

    We were the McKinney, Texas store, we tried to go independent after we saw the insanity of dealing with Cuppy’s but we were too sapped financially after dealing with them that we closed. We began the process way back in 2005, did not open until 2006 and then closed about 8 months later. We were their first Cuppy’s Cafe and I can tell you we had no idea the caliber of people we were dealing with until it was too late. From Morgan all the way till now, nothing but crooks and scam artists. We are now filing personal bankruptcy. I heard Morg was sick, I’m sorry but that God crap he always pulled may be coming back to haunt him now. Hopefully he has something to say to the gate keeper about the way he ran his life when he gets to where he is going! Just wanted to help complete your list, we are also closed.

14. Alicia Benefield on September 13th, 2008 10:45 am

    The store in Carrollton, Georgia is being opened independantly…..

15. Christy Shaw on September 15th, 2008 9:47 am

    Colleyville, TX still trying to open, we still have a little money, I have pulled togeter all outside help to finish my project. I’m moving forward with great care without them.

    It will cost us all of our remaining loan and an additional $30,000.00.

    I will be a double drive through. We never recievied any help for location. AND THEY HAVE COLLECTED $85,000.00 FROM US, That will be our gift to the Cuppies people. I don’t believe anyone will get any of their money back.

    Christy

16. ADMIN on September 15th, 2008 10:39 am

    I’m moving forward with great care without them.

    Good for you, Christy. Are you opening under your own name? Did you get any resistance for going it independent?

    How about you, Alicia?

    Danielle: We’re sorry to hear about the bankruptcy. Hopefully, it will take a weight off. From what I understand, Morg really was sick in 2006, but used it as an excuse/sympathy through 2007. Unbelievable.

17. ADMIN on September 15th, 2008 10:43 am

    By the way, all of you who signed up before this year don’t technically exist.

    At least, according to the new website, Cuppy’s Coffee was established in 2008:

    http://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/2008/09/cuppys-coffee-established-in-2008/

    I guess all your money just got swallowed up in the time-space continuum that is obviously under Dale’s control. The man can’t get his employees or vendors paid or coffee shops built, but he DOES have the ability to rewrite history.

18. sjustice64 on September 15th, 2008 7:33 pm

    Hitler tried to change Germany’s written record books during his rule……

19. Guest on September 15th, 2008 10:16 pm

    As for Morg being sick, this is the one area I will stand up and defend him. He honestly, truly was sick. He has been dealing with the effects of throat cancer for a long time now. I believe treatments and medications are still being continued.

    I know he didn’t have the best business ethics (as I’m finding out through these blogs), but don’t talk crap about someone’s health. That’s hitting below the belt.

20. ADMIN on September 16th, 2008 1:24 am

    Guest writes: As for Morg being sick, this is the one area I will stand up and defend him… I know he didn’t have the best business ethics (as I’m finding out through these blogs), but don’t talk crap about someone’s health…

    Guest: several people recounted how, in early 2007, Morg had told them that his life-threatening illness had given him a new perspective and a dedication to honesty, ethical business, etc. for the rest of his days – as only such a situation could bring about. These people believed that while he had a questionable past, he had truly “seen the light.” It was unthinkable that someone would use such a serious topic to deceive, so they bought it at the time.

    During 2007, nothing really had changed at all, except Morg’s machine kept generating millions of dollars from people who would have nothing but hardship, ruined credit and bankruptcy to look forward to. It’s unthinkable to me to think someone would use a serious illness to their advantage like that – those of you who heard him speak would have a better idea of whether he did or didn’t.

21. Mike on September 16th, 2008 8:50 am

    Since my wife insists on watching this train wreck unfold and subjecting me to a constant reminder of how poorly we were treated and how much we have lost, I must reply to the good “Guest” who posted on Sept. 15 that, “I know [Morg] didn’t have the best business ethics…but don’t talk crap about someone’s health. That’s hitting below the belt.”

    To begin with, stating that Robert Morgan “didn’t have the best business ethics” is perhaps one of the biggest understatements in the history of man. Robert Morgan is an unredeemable, unrepentant piece of garbage who has NO business ethics or, for that matter, personal ethics.

    Guest, you are DEAD wrong that addressing someone’s health issues is “hitting below the belt.” When Robert Morgan engaged in deceptive business practices and fraud and STOLE from people, any and everything about him became fair game. When Robert Morgan came to our store, saw first hand the mess that we were left, looked us in they eye and said “this is the worst situation I could image…I’m so sorry this has happened to you…I won’t let this store fail…I’m going to get a team of people down here to make this right…I’ll call Bellisimo and get them out here, at my own expense, if I have to” and then walked away never to look back or provide assistance, that was hitting below the belt.

    Life has a funny way of coming full circle and making us account for our misdeeds. Robert Morgan deserves whatever befalls him, no matter how awful. In the end, he will get exactly what he deserves and I will have no pity for him. My last, best hope is that he rots in hell where all those of his ilk belong.

22. Guest on September 17th, 2008 2:14 pm

    I am one of the people who was robbed of the $30K and no longer exist (since now things started in 2008 and there was a black hole of those of us who trusted them prior to that time). Years and years of following this drama, signing agreements, agreeing to taking blog comments down, everything. I wait..and wait… Every cent I had saved I gave to Morg with him assuring me I was making the right decision and thinking I did my due diligence. The guy could look you in the eye and put his hand on your shoulder and tell you he’s doing everything he can and then walk away and never give you a second thought. I know some of you have lost more than me and some have lost less but we are all in the same boat living with the fact that we gave someone our hard earned money and they took it with nothing short of stealing. Their contract meant nothing, their refund clause meant nothing, their words meant nothing.
    I, unfortunately, do get some joy knowing that Roy Snowden is sitting in a prison. I hope he likes the food and lies there wishing he was in that $2M house that stolen money paid for that he will never see again. My ordeal dates all the way back to the Snowden days.
    I pray that somehow we all get financially even in some way – even if these crooks don’t have to pay it.

23. Bob Scalia on December 9th, 2008 12:09 pm

    Voorhees NJ Cuppy’s
    Paid for never opened

24. guest on December 9th, 2008 4:03 pm

    Hobe Sound Florida 2008- Cafe paid for never opened.

25. Guest on December 9th, 2008 7:35 pm

    Crestview, Florida – Closed

    Shalimar, Florida – Closed

    Pace, Florida – Closed

26. guest on December 10th, 2008 2:53 pm

    Wilmington, DE Open

27. Bob on December 12th, 2008 5:38 pm

    Did the Christenburg VA store take Bankrupts or just close I noticed that it does not have a for sale sign on it just a sign that said ran out of Beans earlier than I thought How would you find out if it could be bought and opened independently

28. Monica on December 12th, 2008 10:07 pm

    Chino CA cafe closed Oct 2008

29. sussanlane on December 13th, 2008 1:55 pm

    guest on sep. 17- i also feel as you.i lost 80 thousand. cuppys assured me up till the time i was to get my building. i got my premits and site plan ready—- couldnt get in touch with anyone…..at this point , maybe that was a blessing! i take care of my mother, also grandson- who is now 3. work 40 hours a week, it has been a real hardship on us….right has to be done!!!!

30. sussanlane on December 13th, 2008 2:03 pm

    shasta lake city, caif. paid and never opened..

31. jd on December 13th, 2008 4:02 pm

    Sussanlane:

    If you are in California you may want to talk to the state department in charge of registering franchises. CA required Cuppy’s to escrow deposits. If they didn’t escrow the money the state may be able to help you get some money back.

32. Guest on December 13th, 2008 7:15 pm

    JD,

    They didn’t give money to Cuppy’s, they gave money to Elite Manufacturing. As a result, there was no requirement for escrowing money and none ever was. Technically, they didn’t pay for a franchise, they paid for a building.

33. jd on December 14th, 2008 12:15 pm

    Guest: I’m curious to know if anyone has brought this up to the Registration Department in CA and gotten their opinion on it. This was obviously a way for Cuppy’s/Medina to circumvent the escrow requirement in CA.

    Also, Cuppy’s may not have been in compliance in CA. Their 2006 UFOC expired in April 07, but they didn’t re-register until Aug 07, so maybe they were ‘illegally’ selling to prospective franchisees. CA wasn’t the only state that they allowed their registration to lapse.

    Sussanlane: If you haven’t done so, contact the state, see if they can help in some fashion.

34. sussanlane on December 14th, 2008 1:51 pm

    so where do i go to contact the state?? i started with java joz, was told i got everything cuppys would have , only name was different…i would not have to pay the 25 thousand only roylties. and of course alot of pressure to send more money..

35. ADMIN on December 16th, 2008 9:16 am

    California Department of Corporations http://www.corp.ca.gov/

    Morg Morgan’s previous franchise company, Slender Lady, also got in hot water for selling franchises after their registration had lapsed. CA press release: http://www.corp.ca.gov/press/pdf/2005/nr0505.pdf

    FYI Bruce Sharpe, Morg’s friend and business partner in Slender Lady, died recently: http://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/2008/12/slender-lady-founder-bruce-sharpe-has-died/

    He had been “happily living in Columbia”

36. Kathy on December 16th, 2008 10:09 am

    I was the owner of Arlington TX and yes it was a cafe that is now closed and filed for chapter 7 bankruptsy.

    McKinney TX is also closed and closed months before I did. I dont know their history or their contact information.

37. Tim on January 14th, 2009 8:04 pm

    I have a slightly different story. I paid my money and I opened my store. 6 months later, I closed my store. I closed for two reasons:

    First reason: Lou Wachtel, who worked for Cuppy’s at the time, talked me into opening a coffee cafe in Manchester, CT. He promised me that the year before the mall had 17 million people walk through their doors and that I only needed to get 1% of these people to break even. So, I cautiously took the deal. Unfortunately, the first thing I had to do was sign the rental application. Again, all the while, I am asking 25 questions a week trying to make sure I get as much information as I can. I got answers to my questions but they were all lies. My rent was $9,000/mo. My rent was about 70% of my sales.

    Second reason: Elite Mfg fired my original builder 2 weeks before I had to start paying rent ($9,000/mo). Not a single hammer was swung on my project. Nothing was done. So, I proceeded to find someone else to build my store that cost me $114,000. 4 months later I opened but paid $36,000 in rent before that day. My working capital had been cut by 60%. So, I had no money to sustain the business. I was growing the business but just couldn’t make ends meet.

    I’ve spoke with an attorney who has looked into my situation. He’s told me there are a few things they’ve done which are against the laws in CT. Unfortunately, Cuppys is closed now.

    I understand there is a Class action suit against Cuppy’s? If someone could forward the contact information of the person championing this suit to me, I’d greatly appreciate it.

    Thanks
    Bankrupt in CT

38. Eric on January 16th, 2009 7:10 pm

    I have been through all of this. Never opened. Paid 35900. took out a second mortgage. Luckily, sold my home and paid that off. Lost 20,000 cash.Dealt with Danny Jones. What a crook. Morgan can die in hell!!
    Danny Jones too!
    We would call and call and negotiate and signed the agreement. It is so weird to see all of these people who were told the same stuff as us and then the result is the same Nothing!
    We sent a cert letter and someone signed for them at Elite and Cuppys. We also reported Rudy Harper to the Bar Assoc. he was in their legal dept who we spoke with a couple of times.
    We live in Louisiana and can’t wait to find Lil Tran in new orleans, the “wealthy” cuppys owner.
    As for as the lady that doesnt want to hit below the belt! You haven’t been hurt enough to feel the pain we have felt for months. MANY, MANY SLEEPLESS NIGHTS!. Those crooks can die and go to hell with their rotten diseases!
    You will reap what you sow!

39. Eric on January 16th, 2009 7:14 pm

    Oh! just in case the lil tran thing is misunderstood, you know how people are, I’m sure we will never find her, but if we do, it will not be a physical altercation, but definately a verbal one Maybe I should go throughout New Orleans and do my nails in hopes in finding her. TRAMP!

40. Eric on January 16th, 2009 7:15 pm

    Does anyone have ANY info in finding a number to call Cuppys now??

41. Eric on January 16th, 2009 7:16 pm

    Oh, wanted to mention the little liar, Desiree Kahn, who supposedly worked for Rudy Harper.

42. Punta Gorda Club on January 19th, 2009 1:44 pm

    Cuppy’s Coffee of Port Charlotte, FL has just expanded into a second location across the bridge into Punta Gorda, FL located in our health club facility.

    Punta Gorda Club – Tennis & Fitness
    2905 Tamiami Trail, Punta Gorda, FL 33950
    http://www.PuntaGordaClub.com

    Come visit us!

43. Amy on January 22nd, 2009 1:53 pm

    I am looking for a mobile unit for sale/lease.

    Please contact:
    gulfcoastjavajoz1@hotmail.com

44. Amy on January 22nd, 2009 2:07 pm

    Amy & Gary Wiebers
    Panama City Beach Florida – open

    30K for 2nd dual drive thru – stolen

45. Alicia Benefield on January 24th, 2009 7:06 pm

    The store in Tyrone, Georgia is independent. Grand Coffee. Also the Womacks store in the mall in Salem, Orgeon is closed. Couldn’t survive after Mr. Nabors stole all of their money. Speaking of the “wonderful’ Mr. Nabors, has anyone heard from him lately or know of his whereabouts? We are still looking for him.

46. Aaron on January 25th, 2009 11:43 pm

    Amy:

    Please contact me at sjustice64@gmail.com…I am the mobile unit in Niceville, 45 miles west of you, im looking to sell.

    Thanks!

    Aaron

47. sussanlane on January 26th, 2009 10:58 am

    WHAT A BAD JOKE—- i thought i was stupid to have fallen for thisshit. 100 grand is alot of money, to have lost–opps i mean have stolen from you.i like am single take care of my mother, and grandson, work 40 hours a week. i will never recover from this!!!!! for ALL OF US I PRAY——

48. george simpson on January 27th, 2009 1:02 am

    If you havnt heard there is a attorney firm taking the lawsuit on contingency

49. Narelle on January 27th, 2009 1:18 am

    I feel for all curves people and cuppies, they are a few who have been conned and lost all they have worked for their entire lives. Have you logged on to the website Bakersdelightlies, now known as bdlies, as the domain name has switched from the original owner to Bakers delight holdings(COBS), this in itself is interesting to say the least.

    There is also cheesecakeshoplies, and blue mau mau. Baskin Robbins and a host of others who have been set up to warn others of the dangers of franchise churning and unscrupulous operators.

50. Criston Menz on January 27th, 2009 12:21 pm

    WOW…it is never ending… I am still 2 years out, but there is finally some hope. State Atty Gen of FL sent a letter to me and 41 others (many of your names I did not see) regarding a prelim investigation. The office feels we do have grounds for criminal action and defered a letter to:

    Dept of Ag and Consumer Services
    Office of Agricultural Law Enforcement
    6095 Old Bagdad Hwy
    Milton, FL 32583
    Attn:Lt. Calhoun
    (850) 983-4550

    Please refer to case number #4607FR000060A

    Hope this helps for those of you that are still in your anger stage. Word of advice…I lost 36k in Dec 06, and yes, still pay interest on it today, not to mention the time and resources I have utilized to try to get a “ROI” from Medina/Cuppy’s/Elite/Morgan…etc…If you have your family and health let your anger turn to a positive to make these people fall. Focus on what we all do have at this time in our life vs what they took, otherwise…they won! Karma will catch them. Best of luck…there is STRENGTH in Numbers!

    Criston

51. Maria on January 28th, 2009 12:23 pm

    Criston –

    I’m one of the 42 people listed on the complaint. Do you know of any website that can link up to the info on case number #4607FR000060A? I’ve searched a variety of Florida court sites and haven’t been able to find anything. I’d like to get any available info for me and my attorney.

52. Guest on January 28th, 2009 1:59 pm

    Maria,

    It’s not a complaint and it isn’t in any court. This is simply a case number that they have assigned. There is no info available yet and i don’t think that they would release that info to you or your attorney even if they had it, because it would be confidential.

53. Criston Menz on January 28th, 2009 3:43 pm

    I understand it is not a court and no legal action has been taken. But understand that it is more ACTION than many of us have had in years, literally, regarding the issue at hand. I am just trying to get people to call and get their name added. I also got an email regarding a conference call regarding our legal options at this point. If interested email me at cmenz@comcast.net and I will get you the details.

54. sussanlane on January 31st, 2009 11:05 pm

    Maria & Criston, I also have the same case #. George Simpon- please email me that attorneys name, i would love to have it! thank you

55. Guest on February 3rd, 2009 3:50 pm

    I just got this email, so apparantly Dale Nabor is still taking peoples money and operating as Cuppy’s:

    Good afternoon everyone,

    I’ve read everyone’s mail about what’s going on how they can’t get this
    and that. I’m currently under construction and Cuppy’s is Back”! No lie,
    I’m currently getting the rest of my financing. We’re looking at an
    opening date sometime in April or May. Mr. Mancuso, of Caffe D’arte,
    Brian Hayes of Specialty Build Outs, and Mr. Dale are some wonderful
    people to get in contact with. Cuppy’s of Alexandria/Pineville
    Louisiana, coming soon!!!!!!
    So do your research and find out what’s really happening instead of
    listening to all the cyber via-emails lies………………Everything
    you need to have is right there, look, and contact the right people. I
    have!

56. Mike Wallace on February 3rd, 2009 4:47 pm

    Whoever sent that e-mail is either a schill for Cuppy’s or a complete rube. If the former – shame on you. If the latter, prepare for heartache, dissapointment and ultimately bankruptcy.

    I will never cease to be amazed at how STUPID people can be. Wake up, dude, it’s a scam – was from the start.

57. Suzy on February 3rd, 2009 5:39 pm

    I have a docket number for a case filed in Florida in Oct. 2008, http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-flndce/case_no-3:2008cv00457/case_id-51868, I am interested in joining a lawsuit against Cuppy’s et.al. They owe me $37,900. Do you have Dale’s e-mail address? I would love to contact him myself.

58. ADMIN on February 4th, 2009 8:51 am

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59. Guest on February 4th, 2009 9:16 am

    Suzy,

    That was a former employee that sued him for breach of contract. Has nothing to do with being a franchisee. There are a LARGE number of lawsuits against the entities in Okaloosa County (http://www.clerkofcourts.cc/court/courtsearch.htm).

60. ADMIN on February 4th, 2009 4:30 pm

    I have learned that a number of attorneys are up-to-speed and interested in discussing options with victims of Cuppy’s Coffee. One is Dady & Garner in Minneapolis – someone post the name and contact info if they’ve got it.
    Another is:
    Alejandro Brito, Esq.,
    & Melissa Bernheim, Esq.
    Zarco Einhorn Salkowski & Brito, P.A.
    100 S.E. 2nd Street
    Suite 2700
    Miami, FL 33131
    Tel. (305) 374-5418
    Fax (305) 374-5428

61. Guest on February 4th, 2009 4:52 pm

    Scott Korzenowski 612-359-5486 at Dady & Garner

62. ADMIN on February 5th, 2009 7:10 pm

    Another attorney looking at Cuppy’s was posted at FranchisePick.com:

    Aylstock, Witkin and Sasser 1-877-810-4808
    Mr D Thornburgh ”

63. Betty Boop on February 6th, 2009 1:15 pm

    To Mike Wallace (most recent post on February 3rd, 2009 4:47 pm)

    Dude, you really need to come on back to the asylum. If you don’t have a ride, at least remember to take your medicine. Your woo woo is showing. Everybody out there knows…

64. ADMIN on February 6th, 2009 1:22 pm

    Betty:
    Mike Wallace is crazy because he calls THIS company a scam?
    http://www.franchisepick.com/franchise-controversies/cuppys-coffee-java-joz-elite-manufacturing-medina-blogliography/

    I could see how he could be criticized for restating the obvious… but amazingly it seems to need restating…

    Please, Betty. What am I missing?

65. Betty Boop on February 6th, 2009 3:57 pm

    Yes Admin., you are missing a lot of details. Mike Wallace basically never paid Cuppy’s for anything after his down payment. He got lots and lots of freebies, from product to extra training-including plane fare and a free $15K sign. He was the first Java Joz to switch to Cuppy’s and he got a lot of perks for doing it. According to his wife, Mike basically dropped out of life during their buildout process and his wife, Danielle, was having a hard time trying to teach school, take care of their kids, monitor Mike’s violent outbursts and get their store open. From what we got, he refused to ever go to their store and stayed home in a dark room all day on the computer. Danielle even talked about Mike and a shot gun once, but I’ll skip the details. Mike and Daniel both know. The truth is that Mike Wallace is a real unstable guy who gets on here, spouting off and calling Morg out on his Christianity. I remember when Morg went to tx for a family funeral and spent a lot of time with the Wallace’s at their store in McKinney. At the time, that didn’t sound right to us at the office that Morg would be spending his time with the Wallace’s instead of his family, but that was just what Morg did. I’ve read Mike’s posts before complaining that he didn’t get his calls returned. It was the other way around. All I do know is that we really tried to help Mike and his wife get their store going and after a while they just dropped off the map and the next thing I heard was that they switched their name. The Wallace’s picked a real bad location against our advice in the first place and it just got worse from there. All they ever did was complain. I used to feel sorry for Danielle, but I don’t anymore. She has twisted the facts around just as bad as Mike has. Some franchise owners have legitimate complaints, but not the Wallace’s.

66. Mike Wallace on February 6th, 2009 5:40 pm

    Hello Betty Boop, I’m assuming you work for Cuppy’s. First, I will start by saying that you need to seriously think about what you are posting regarding my personal character and behavior. Much of what you say in your post is absolute calumny (i.e., defamation), and if you persist, I will find out who you are and sue you.

    Now, on to the facts. Let me just take apart your assertions one-by-one:

    1. Mike Wallace basically never paid Cuppy’s for anything after his down payment.
    Wrong – I paid Cuppy’s/Elite $238K and spent much more of my personal money to fix what was botched from the start.

    2. He got lots and lots of freebies, from product to extra training-including plane fare and a free $15K sign.
    Wrong – I got nothing for free. My wife and I never flew to FL for training, we drove (and paid for our own gas, food and lodging). As for the sign, I simply made Cuppy’s replace the sign that was incorrectly built under Susan Boyd’s project management.

    3. Mike basically dropped out of life during their buildout process and his wife, Danielle, was having a hard time trying to teach school, take care of their kids, monitor Mike’s violent outbursts and get their store open.
    Wrong – I continued to work at the coffee shop and my full-time job throughout the time we were open. It was me that picked my daugher up from school everyday (I even fell asleep in the car line once from exhaustion). It was me, the whole way, who fought Cuppy’s to try and get what we paid for – maybe you think that constitutes “violent” behavior, I don’t know.

    4. [Mike] he refused to ever go to their store and stayed home in a dark room all day on the computer. Danielle even talked about Mike and a shot gun once, but I’ll skip the details.
    Wrong – First, you are treading thin ice here. This is the one comment you make that I am seriously considering legal action over. If you are so sure of what you know, let’s see some details coward. Now, to correct. I don’t own ANY weapons. I worked in that store EVERYDAY until we finally had to declare bankruptcy.

    5. The Wallace’s picked a real bad location against our advice in the first place and it just got worse from there.
    Wrong – Our location was RECOMMENDED to us by Cuppy’s. They told us what a marvelous location it will be, as the traffic counts were “phenomenal.”

    6. Some franchise owners have legitimate complaints, but not the Wallace’s.
    Wrong – I have documentation and considerable work that was done by my attorney that clearly shows the many violations of state and federal law perpetrated by Cuppy’s.

    What I didn’t address in Miss Boop’s post has been covered in other places and I’m not going to rehash it all.

    To sum up: Cuppy’s (Robert Morgan et. al.) took our money and left us with an aboslute mess that we couldn’t clean up. The results have been devastating for us financially (over $230K lost). At this point, I don’t care who gives those crooks their money. At this point, anyone who doesn’t see Cuppy’s for what it is deserves to be ripped off.

    Regards,
    Mike Wallace

67. Guest on February 6th, 2009 6:22 pm

    betty boop must be amy hiller – fat and busty

68. Amy on February 6th, 2009 7:35 pm

    Anyone no anything else about those so called “wonderful people” Mr. Dale, Brian Hayes and Caffe Darte Joe?

69. Guest on February 7th, 2009 10:02 am

    Cafe Darte has been working closely with all of the franchisees that were open before the collapse (and have opened since) continuing to supply them with product. They have been a pleasure to work with. Brian Hayes has been working with a number of franchisees that Dale left holding the bag (deposit in, lease signed, NO buildout) to help get their stores built and open. Mr. Dale has fallen off the face of the earth. No communication from him since September.

70. Amy on February 7th, 2009 12:37 pm

    Yes, Joe from Cafe Darte did contact me also. The email I am referring to stated something to the effect “Cuppys is back” and listed Mr. Dale along with Brain and Joe. Kinda threw a red flag up for me. I sure hope Cafe Darte isn’t enlisting/associating with Mr. Dale behind the scenes. I would hate to see a great family run coffee (Cafe Darte) go down the tubes.

71. Amy on February 7th, 2009 3:01 pm

    I have a question for those Cuppy’s still in business: I am wondering how many Cuppy’s have changed their name? And if there may be legal rammifications by those of us who still have the Cuppy’s name on our buildings??

72. guest on February 7th, 2009 11:02 pm

    I have a bigger question. Since Cuppys has not legally, nor officially halted operations, How could an existing franchisee change their name? How could an existing franchisee discontinue paying royalties? They must go through the legal process. Two wrongs don’t make a right. If I was an existing operating franchisee, I would be making sure I followed the agreement to the T until no longer legally bound. Unfortunately for me I have lost more money than most and did not even get a chance to build out, but I can guarantee you I am following the legal process to resolve the mess I am currently in.

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74. Guest on February 8th, 2009 12:51 pm

    The franchisor would be in default of the franchise agreement. The franchisee would need to follow the procedures outlined in the FA to declare the franchisor in default and cancel the agreement. I’m sure it would involve sending a certified letter to the franchisor establishing the conditions of the breach, allowing a period to cure and failing the cure, would result in the breach.

75. sussanlane on February 8th, 2009 1:25 pm

    CA , SHASTA LAKE CITY paid –never opened

76. ADMIN on February 8th, 2009 1:56 pm

    Cuppy’s Coffee: Who’s suing them now
    http://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/2009/02/cuppys-coffee-whos-suing-them-now/

    Please add any status updates or contact information to that post.

77. Javier Cevantes on February 8th, 2009 1:57 pm

    I’m from Rialto California, I paid for the Cuppy’s franchise but never get to open or even to win a bid for a location, at this time I’m filing a case along with othe franchisee’s.

78. guest on February 9th, 2009 12:42 am

    Where exactly would these Cuppy’s be sending royalties since they feel off the face of the earth???

79. ADMIN on February 9th, 2009 8:31 am

    Cuppy’s has never collected royalties. In fact, it’s been reported they never even set up the procedures to collect royalties.

    Legit franchise companies make their money by collecting royalties long term from successful franchise owners. Wonder what this indicates?

80. guest on February 9th, 2009 8:39 am

    Actually, they did collect royalties from those franchisees dumb enough to send them in without asking. The early group of java joz to Cuppy’s converts had a flat royalty (in some cases as low as $50 per month) and some of the franchisees just sent in a check every month. In terms of a system for collection, they had an excel spreadsheet, does that count?

81. Guest on February 9th, 2009 9:33 am

    Regardless if there is an address to send the payments to or not , a contract is a contract until mutually / legally void. My thought is at some point an existing operating franchise may get a call stating “oh by the way” your royalties we have not recieved for the past year are now due.

82. Amy on February 9th, 2009 2:48 pm

    My question had nothing at all to do with royalties. It had to do with other lawsuits going on and if per way off chance if we franchisees might could be held to something associated with the Corporate Cuppys. I have had several other business people state that I should disassociate with Cuppys’ due to legality – thats all.

    And who is to say that we couldn’t become liable for future revenues?? Wondering if anyone else had something to know about that?

    Probably better to change my name than to have more go wrong.

83. ADMIN on February 10th, 2009 9:40 am

    Amy:
    There are franchisees who planned to sue even before their stores were opened. I was surprised that they still opened using the name “Cuppy’s Coffee” and asked them about it. They said that their attorneys had told them that it was better for their case to be operating under that name until they sued.
    Honestly, I don’t know what that reason is, but you should find out. My initial reaction would have been the same as the businesspeople you spoke to – but the lawyers opinion is what counts in this circumstance.
    Does anyone know the reason its better to keep operating under the Cuppy’s Coffee name if one plans to litigate?

84. guest on February 10th, 2009 7:59 pm

    Admin,

    Technically they are still a franchisee of Cuppy’s Coffee until such time as their franchise agreement is terminated. Clearly, the franchisor has breached the agreement but I’m sure there is a process in the agreement to first notify the franchisor of the alleged breach, a chance for the zor to reply and cure and failing that, to notify them of their default and your intention to void the agreement. That would be the best course of action. What happens if the zor files bankruptcy and someone “buys” the assets. Among the assets would be the projected royalty stream. Unless that agreement is terminated the acquiror would be entitled to royalties going forward.

85. Choice Sign Systems on February 11th, 2009 3:53 pm

    Cuppy’s Coffee is a fraud. We were the National sign company for Cuppy’s Coffee and we have been completely ripped off. We were constantly lied to from all of the employees from Cuppy’s and especially the so called owner Dale. Where has Dale gone? The man with supposed high morals has dissappeared. I do feel bad for some of the franchisee and feel nothing for others. There are many open stores out there with signs that were never paid for. We asked these stores to pay for the signs and they refused saying it was not their problem. Cuppy’s did more than rip people off. They turned good people into people like themselves. Franchisees who got ripped off now feel since they were ripped off they should screw other people as well. There are stores open with signs that were never paid for and the franchisees don’t even care. We kept shipping signs because we di not want to hurt these franchisees but in the end they could care less and hurt us.

86. Tim on February 11th, 2009 7:19 pm

    Let me tell you about my experiences with Choice signs…. they hired the firm to install a sign at my location while my buildout was taking place (which was fine). The project manager watched them come in, setup and try and drill “one” hole for 5 minutes. They apparently didn’t bring the right equipment to drill through regular tile (why I don’t know – they had the plans and new what the underlayment was made of). After the 5 minutes were up, they packed up their stuff and never came back. I had to chase them down through cuppy’s to try and get them back. They refused to come back unless all “100″ holes were pre-drilled (by the way, they designed the sign and the installation of it) . The drilling of the holes is part of their installation procedure which I paid for. I, personally, tore down about 60 sq ft of tile from the wall, paid for more tile and then had to pay a tile-installer “again” to re-install the tile. This time, he pre-cut all the holes because they don’t know how to use a drill-bit. This mis-hap on their management cost me about $3,000.

    Bottom line: Choice signs – I don’t want to here you complaining. Your business practices are far from stellar. Perhaps you should spend more time subbing out to the right people.

87. cd on February 12th, 2009 8:09 am

    Joe didn’t “ask” franchisees to pay for the signs they already paid Cuppy’s for, he threatened them with liens if they didn’t. He made a poor business decision in continuing to produce signs for Cuppy’s when the company was not paying the bills and franchisees got screwed yet again.

88. Beth Wright on February 13th, 2009 8:54 pm

    Cuppy’s mobile in Elyria is alive and thriving. I refuse to lose. I figure if you have a kiosk, drive-thru, or cafe, you are at the mercy of the economy. If you have a mobile, you are at the mercy of your own ambition. I have already been to the Indy 500, Allstate 400, Moto GP at Indy, and the best part is that a certain company noticed my ambition, and invited me to work at this years’ Super Bowl with them, in Tampa, Florida, just not as Cuppy’s. Good Luck to all of you.

89. Amy on February 14th, 2009 8:58 am

    Another reason to change our names.

90. guest on February 16th, 2009 10:14 pm

    Beth:

    awesome! I just signed a contract with ISC to do Daytona, Homestead, Bristol, Atlanta and Talledega with my mobile unit

91. Hettion Booker on May 20th, 2009 3:30 pm

    WHAT A MESS! I am so sorry that so many people became victims of this horrible situation. I invested in Cuppy’s back in 2007 and opened and started operating my mobile cafe in March of 2008. Unlike alot of the mobile cafes, I have done relatively well. I am still operating but I have significantly reduced the events that I participate in as well as where I will go. I have upgraded the machine in many ways and put other investments into it. The machine is a great machine but it requires alot of hard work and dedication. I have a contract with Lowe’s Motor Speedway in Concord, NC and have contracts with other larger venues/events. I still would like to team up with another mobile unit. The product if a great product and speaks for itself. Go to my website and you will be amazed at what you can do with a little ambition!

92. Hettion Booker on May 20th, 2009 3:32 pm

    By the way, I’m the Mobile Cafe of Greensboro, North Carolina.

93. ADMIN on May 20th, 2009 4:04 pm

    Hettion Booker:
    Thanks for the update and congratulations.
    Operating a mobile business at events is tough and takes a lot of energy… good for you and Beth and the others still toughing it out!

94. Poonam Khapra on May 20th, 2009 4:04 pm

    We paid money to Cuppys for Cafe to be opened in HOUMA, LA in Feb 2007. The list is showing the cuppys drive thru in Houma, LA, which is closed now but we were supposed to open CAFE in the same city on different location. On cuppys website it was showing coming soon for longer time and when we started asking our money back, they just took our location out of their website in August 2008.

95. ADMIN on May 20th, 2009 4:19 pm

    Poonam Khapra:
    Sorry to hear that. That makes at least 3 that lost money in Houma, LA from these guys. Robyn & Corey Rivera were the first… they lost money when it was called Java Jo’z. Here’s their interview:
    http://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/seeking-my-30k-deposit-from-morg-morgan-cuppys-coffee-java-joz/

96. Eric McVey on May 20th, 2009 4:32 pm

    The IA – Des Moines: store opened in April 2008 – Closed December 2008
    The IA – Ames operation is a mobile unit

97. Jim Julian on May 20th, 2009 4:37 pm

    Dale N. Is an idiot! I am glad he was caught after all the frustration it took to get open and then have to deal with him. I hope you all can get your money back. We are still going in Westminster, Colorado. Good luck to all of you

98. Claudia Robbins on May 20th, 2009 7:33 pm

    Jim, glad to hear that you and Renae are still open.

99. Jim Julian on May 20th, 2009 7:44 pm

    Thanks, read your story on another site, hope you are doing better! Was glad to see you guys get open

100. Chris S on May 20th, 2009 10:44 pm

     I am trying to add my name. I am in Metairie Louisiana and I paid and never opened, never received any assistance….NOTHING!!!!

101. ADMIN on May 20th, 2009 11:06 pm

     Chris S.:
     We added your location.

102. Pinky on May 21st, 2009 2:00 pm

     GA Tyrone Cafe w/ DriveThru [OPEN] Owner: Pinky Legaspi

     Hi Sean. You can probably update mine as OPEN-DEBRANDED or however you want to name it.

     I opened Dec 2008 as Grand Coffee.

     Thanks!

103. Alicia Benefield on May 21st, 2009 2:22 pm

     You can change mine to OPEN-DEBRANDED just like Pinky’s. Our address is:
     Benefield Coffee Co.
     929 Maple Street
     Carrollton, GA 30117
     770-834-7222
     benefieldcoffeeco@yahoo.com
     We opened November 3, 2008

     Thanks for all you do Sean!

104. D and T Presley on May 22nd, 2009 9:17 am

     Pace, Fl Paid Franchise fee–right after is when all things went downhill.

105. Amy on May 22nd, 2009 12:40 pm

     The Panama City Beach store says open soon – we have been open for one year.

     Amy Wiebers
     owner

106. Pinky Legaspi on May 23rd, 2009 8:07 am

     Duncan, OK – closed 5/15/09

     Cumming, GA – opened 11/08 closed 01/09 (only open for 2 months)

     Sugar Hill, GA – closed after 2 years

     Johns Creek, GA – open

     Mansfield, OH – open

107. ADMIN on May 26th, 2009 6:03 pm

     Sad news… Claudia & Alan Robbins have decided to close their Wilmington, DE Cuppy’s Coffee location.

     Just this past November we wrote how the Robbins’ had to battle the odds to get open: “Little did they know, the Robbins would have to battle through the change in the ownership of Cuppy’s Coffee & Elite Manufacturing, missed deadlines, broken promises, fallout from a lawsuit against Elite Manufacturing by subcontractor SBT, and the seeming collapse of both the franchisor and its construction arm.”

     “During the process, the Robbins’ reportedly had to seize control of their own building process and oversee their own contractors to get their buildout finished, incurring additional costs and a 7 month delay in the process.”

     http://www.unhappyfranchisee.com/cuppys-coffee-cafe-opens-in-wilmington-de-congratulations/

     We wish Claudia & Alan the best of luck in all future endeavors.

108. former Geeks on Call franchisee on May 28th, 2009 11:57 am

     2 of the largest and most successful Geeks on Call owners filed for Chapter 11 protection and a lawsuit in federal court on May 15. see the following link to one of them:

     http://dockets.justia.com/docket/court-vaedce/case_no-1:2009cv00555/case_id-242486/

     According to the docket they named 3 corporate individuals; Richard Cole; CEO; Rich Artese; COO and Keith Wesp; CFO, personally along with the corporation they own stock and work for Geeks on Call America and Geeks on Call Holdings.

     For more information or to join suit with other current or former franchise owners the lawyer handling the cases is below.

     Patrick R. Blasz
     Law Offices of Patrick R. Blasz, LLC
     11490 Commerce Park Drive
     Suite 240
     Reston, Virginia 20191

     (703) 964-3180 office
     (703) 964-3183 fax

     pblasz@blaszlaw.com

109. Amy on May 28th, 2009 5:46 pm

     what does Geeks on Call have to do with Cuppys?

110. Jonathan on September 18th, 2009 9:04 pm

     Clawson MI is closed and for sale according to the sign at their location.

111. Criston Menz on September 20th, 2009 7:28 pm

     Just wondering what the status is, if any at all. Last time I spoke to the FL Dept of Ag and Consumer Services, he had the file regarding, but just beginning to look at it. He did say that the statue of limitations for this type of fraud is 4 years. That date is drawing close for some of us.
     Criston Menz, Albuquerque, NM

112. Alicia Benefield on September 23rd, 2009 10:42 am

     Benefield Coffee Co. Carrollton, Georgia
     Opened 11/3/08
     Closed 7/3/09
     Filed Chapter 7 Bankruptcy

113. Cindy on October 16th, 2009 11:33 pm

     I just heard from Diane Check on Facebook. Very sad to say that they will be closing their drive thru in Greece, NY 31 October.

114. John Patterson on November 23rd, 2009 10:56 am

     The stores in Port Charlotte, FL and on U.S. 41 in Venice, FL have closed.

115. DS on November 23rd, 2009 6:48 pm

     Does anybody know if the Cuppy’s in Lakeland, FL has closed? It opened about the same time as my Java Joz.

116. Roberto on December 24th, 2009 8:28 am

     you can contact lili tran using facebook, she’s the vulgar asian girl located in panama city beach.

117. I happen to love Lily Tran & so do many other people! on December 26th, 2009 8:20 am

     You can contact “Roberto” at assholes.com. He/she is the idiot, who is either too stupid or too lazy to capitalize proper nouns and doesn’t know when to use a semicolon in a sentence AND who [evidently] hides behind the name “Roberto” so that he/she can trash people without just cause or ramifications.

118. I happen to respect and admire Lily Tran & so do many other people! on December 26th, 2009 7:27 pm

     You can contact “Roberto” at contactajerk.com. He/she is the idiot, who is either too stupid or too lazy to capitalize proper nouns, doesn’t know when to use a semicolon in a sentence AND who [evidently] hides behind the name “Roberto” so that he/she can randomly trash people without fear of hostile response.

119. Philip on December 27th, 2009 11:53 am

     who could respect someone like that??? and what anyone would respect her would do on this forum? be serious lili you are ridiculous…

120. Cindy on January 1st, 2010 8:51 pm

     Rancho Cucamonga is closed and so is Shalimar.

121. Dennis on December 3rd, 2010 3:57 pm

     Just picked up a coffee from Cuppy’s in Wheatland, CA. You can call it open. Great staff and service.

122. Mike Wallace on December 31st, 2010 6:35 pm

     ? McKinney Texas Store:

     This store is not open (closed September 2008). Ours was one of the first to hang the stupid Cuppy’s sign. I took it down two months later and went independent. Unfortunately, the financial losses we suffered at the hand of Morgan and Cuppy’s were too much and the business failed.

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