CUPPY’S COFFEE: Dale & Natalie Nabors Arrested

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• When you find him you need to keep him in there for ever Dale has screwed so many people and he has 40,000.00 dollares of mine for when i was going to open a cuppy’s coffee.

• My attorney gave up on this case and the hope of ever getting back our money. Anyone else in the same predicament? Any other avenues to go after before the statue of limitation runs out spring of 2010?

• I have known Robert Dale Nabors for years and anyone who thinks he should not go to jail is an absolute IDIOT. If you truly believe that, then you don’t want to admit that you were sucked in by a professional con artist.

  Several years ago, I was ‘one of you’, then Dale’s world fell apart as his scheme was revealed. Unfortunately, some who are victimized by a con artist just chalk it up to experience, for they want to avoid embarrassment of being so stupid to fall for someone like him. —Dale packs up, moves to another town, starts to charm his next victims…

  Dale belongs in one of two places—jail or a mental institution.

  I have followed the Cuppy’s adventure on the internet and quite honestly, would not have been surprised to see him on America’s Most Wanted after fleeing the country with all the Cuppy’s money. He says it’s all gone, I say bullsh#t! It’s just a matter of time before he disappears. He has it stashed somewhere.

  For those of you ‘Believe and Succeed’ followers, time to admit you’ve been conned. People like him never change. And history has once again repeated itself, just this time, he hit the jackpot.

  Best of luck to his newest victims. One day I will write a book about him. I’m just waiting until I know what the ending will be. Will the Cuppy’s victims be the ones to put him away, or is he already onto his next venture?

• My apologies to Kinsey and Jutta–I did not intend to refer to you both as ‘idiots’. I cut and pasted my blog from the ‘Morgan’s American Dream’ and refer to those supporting Dale as idiots. Best of luck to you.

• DALE NABORS STOLE OVER 30,000 FROM US, BECAUSE OF A CUPPYS DEAL.GOD IS IN CONTROL.

• No offense taken. I’ve called myself that many times when it comes to Cuppy’s. What I don’t understand is that I’ve contacted the atty general in FL and others and none of them seemed to take any interest in this. I’ve almost accepted the loss, but sometimes I get so mad I want to continue the fight.

• Jutta! Please keep on calling your AG and your federal and state reps and senators about this situation. Why didn’t the SBA do their “due diligence” and why were they continuing for such a long time to guarantee loans for Cuppy’s.

  The truth is, in my opinion, that the SBA doesn’t care whether or not the loans they guarantee are successful for the franchisees. The SBA Franchise Registry has lots of losers listed and it appears that the SBA subsidizes franchisors at the expense of franchisees who lose everything and this is rationalized as good public policy that encourages activity in the economy.

  When the FTC regulated franchising back in 1979, they took franchisors out from under the common law fraud statutes of the states and the Attorney Generals know that the franchise contracts are the only law governing the sale of the franchises and that federal law prempts state law. It is my opinion that Even if an AG of a State investigates a franchisor, under federal law and regulation, there is NO private right of action for the injured franchisees. The AG of the State can put the franchisor out of business in his state and negotiate a consent decree, etc… and a recission if they are still
  operating within the state, but this does not usually help the individual injured franchisee. Are there still Cuppy’s operating in Florida or being sold in Florida? If not, the State AG would have no interest or standing to investigate the matter.

  In the Cuppy’s case, there was some kind of misappropriation, or something unusual that involved the SBA loans and the State AG’s would believe, (I would guess) that it is a federal problem, and not their problem if Cuppy’s is no longer registered to operate in the state of Florida.

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• You need to contact Kenny Pinkard at the FL Dept of Law Enforcement: KennyPinkard@fdle.state.fl.us with information relevant to the criminal complaint. Please be prepared to provide specific information.

• Like so many of you, I too was taken by the Dale Nabors and Morg. I invested 100K of my own money plus the SBA loan. It has ruined my credit and my reputation. Jail time is not good enough for these two felons.

• The Lord says “Vengeance is Mine” but many franchisees who have lost everything will feel that “justice is theirs” the first time a franchisor goes to jail! I understand your pain and anger Robert Cotterill. This too will pass! and I hope you will work to get regulatory changes wherein at least the franchisors, themselves, will have to be transparent about the performance of the units in their systems before they sell new franchises to new innocents.

  It is appalling that Dale and Morg would and could do this kind of damage to you but remember that the law surrounding franchising permits and encourages franchisors to USE and EXPLOIT franchisees to their own advantage with impunity under the law because it is the growth of the franchisor that is protected under regulatory policy.

  The SBA has subsidized franchisors for years. Ask yourself why the SBA didn’t do some “due diligence” on this franchise before they approved the loan for you! Are you still paying on this SBA Loan or did you default and did the SBA come after your collateral — after they paid the guaranteed portion to the bank who gave you the loan?

  I don’t believe that a franchisor has ever done any jail time since the federal government regulated franchising 30 years ago to protect the franchisors from common law fraud and tort charges in the state courts. (See Robert Purvin’s Public Comment #79 to the FTC, in 1997, reference the Franchise Rule and his observation that the FTC Rule governing presale disclosure in franchise sales was promulgated to protect franchisors from fraud.) Understand that even if a franchisor violates the federal Rule concerning disclosure, this, apparently, is never fraud but just a violation of an Administrative Rule and there is NO PRIVATE RIGHT of ACTION for injured franchisees under federal regulatory policy that preempts state laws governing the sale of franchises to the public.

  If Dale or Morg go to jail, it will be because they violated laws outside of the protection of the franchise contract. It appears that Dale is already suffering the bad consequences of his investment in Cuppy’s if he is “stealing services” and he and his wife are being prosecuted locally and suffering their own kind of hell.

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