CUPPY’S COFFEE: Lake Elsinore, CA Disses Cuppy’s Coffee Modular Unit
August 31, 2008
The Californian reports that Lake Elsinore grudgingly approved a Cuppy’s Coffee drive-through kiosk:
LAKE ELSINORE —- Don’t expect to see Mayor Daryl Hickman or Councilwoman Genie Kelley waiting in line for a piping hot cup of Cuppy’s Coffee.
Both of the Lake Elsinore City Council members voted against a plan for a Cuppy’s Coffee drive-through kiosk that had been submitted by the owner of the shopping center at the northeast corner of Central and Collier avenues. The shop will be built in the parking lot near Del Taco.
Hickman and Kelley said they voted against the plan —- which was approved with a 3-2 vote Tuesday —- because they were not impressed with the design of the kiosk, a small structure that can accommodate two lanes of traffic and walk-up customers.
Councilman Robert Schiffner said he wasn’t "pleased with the looks of this little thing," but he ultimately voted to approve the plans.
Commenter Wrong Answer stated:
Anyone remember Java Hut on Riverside Dr. It closed about 8 or so months ago. Great place. Wish it was still open… But it’s not the first drive up.
Dale N. stated:
Many people who have never seen a Cuppy’s Coffee double drive thru are unable to envision how attractive it can make any outparcel.
I doubt that the Mayor or Counselwoman will be able to resist starting their day off with a great cup of Cuppy’s Coffee or trying a cool and refreashing smoothie on a hot summer day.
Best Wishes Lake Elsinor!
Dale N.
Another coffee drive-through closed there 8 months ago? Who is developing this kiosk… and why? Does Elite even have a modular builder?
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CUPPY’S COFFEE: Employees Bid Fond Farewell to Dale Nabors
August 29, 2008
As the trucks carrying what’s left of Cuppy’s Coffee and Elite Manufacturing home offices leave Ft. Walton Beach in their rear view mirror, the Medina, Cuppy’s and Elite employees left behind bid some fond farewells (here and at Blue Mau Mau) to Dale Nabors and their former co-workers who they claim “brown-nosed” their way to Muscle Shoals, AL:
This is our last day… A great company has been destroyed in less than 6 months! As employees we at least cared about the franchisees. WE TALKED WITH THEM AND CRIED WITH THEM - WE WORKED MANY DAYS FROM HOME TRYING TO HELP THEM, BECAUSE YOU WOULD NOT ANSWER THEIR CALLS - YOU TALKED THE TALK BUT DID NOT WALK THE WALK; And now you have stolen all of our futures!
I will continue to think of the franchisee’s and hope they get their real estate and build-outs before they go broke. We believed you and now we are unemployeed and the franchisee’s who were once our friends hate us! Your hiding-out and blaming us for your not doing what you suppose to do is at least finally ending.
BELIEVE AND FAIL
Franchisee’s should pray that someone stops Dale from stealing their money. At least when Elite was run by Brian Hayes, buildings got built, now it’s run by a kid with no construction experience and who brown noses Dale all day.
Brian may have been late but the franchisee’s got built-out. Dale Nabors could care less, he stopped paying SBT and MBM because he wanted to dispute their invoices and expenses.
Before Dale our company had it’s weaknesses just like all new companies, but we had more than 100 dedicated employee’s and managers. When Dale came to the company he acted like he controlled the company and he had Morg’s backing while he acted so confident and all the while ran the operations and the companies into the ground.
We were a great company with great employees, franchisee’s and managers. This is what happens when a person like Dale is left in charge of your future. Dale how do you sleep?
Guest writes:
Dale promised the managers he had the money and a plan to really speed up Elite’s build-outs. He claimed we would have all of them done before the end of the year. He told us Morg and Brian were wasting franchisee’s money and that he could get buildings built at half the cost.
He stopped paying SBT & MBM for buildings and stopped paying the vendors. This caused all hell to break loose.
Every week we would hear about some big deal he was working on with a famous builder which would save the franchisees thousands of dollars and make the company stronger than ever. He told us it was because of Morg’s poor management skills and Brians stealing Elite’s money was the reason why he was being forced to put franchisee’s build-outs on hold. He also said that Morg and Brian were probably partners.
Before Dale and when he first came on as a consultant the management team would discuss each franchisee problems at a weekly meeting. Getting the right real estate was always a big factor and the company really had a hard time getting good locations during the first year I was there. The next problem we faced as managers was dealing with the people that we thought would qualify for their loans - we would spend hundreds of hours helping them get a good location only to be told they can’t get a loan, I know that many of the people did not get their franchise fee’s paid back to them.
It seemed that the company was always trying to figure out how to pay refunds from Elite, because of financing problems and people getting second thoughts about moving forward. I know a lot of time monthly payments were being made from the accounting department to people that had lost their financing, because they would call if they were a day late. Now the calls are not being paid at all.
I am not bitter, but it is hard to see so many people’s hopes destroyed. We once had a vision of this company being the best company in Florida - WHAT HAPPENED???? - I am hurt to see what this company has become - how did we get here? It is hard for me to say, but Dale lied to us and now he is moving on, while the rest of the employees and franchisees are left to wonder what will happen to us next.
CUPPY’S COFFEE: Question for Cuppy’s Coffee “Depositers”
August 29, 2008
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Are you a Cuppy’s Coffee franchise “depositer” who is or was being repaid some or all of your refundable deposit to Cuppy’s Coffee or Elite Manufacturing?
Did you receive - or are you receiving - the promised payments in accordance with the schedule set forth by the company?
Please share your payment status with us - either by leaving a comment or sending a confidential email to unhappyfranchisee[at]gmail.com. How much is the original amount they owe you, and how much was the settlement plan you agreed to? You don’t have to use your real name or other identifying info if you don’t want to.
I have heard from several people that they signed a settlement agreement with as little as hundreds of dollars upfront. They received a few payments totalling a couple thousand dollars and the payments stopped. I am interested to know if they stopped paying because of the cash flow issues, or whether they simply make 4 payments and then stop… never having intended to pay back the whole amount.
The agreements they offer could, in essence, transform $35K - $45K debts into a form of contract that can be wiped away in the event of bankruptcy, and they buy the silence of those that cheated for $2K… and the Internet goes silent, paving the way for more unsuspecting “depositers” who don’t know what’s about to hit them…
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August 29, 2008
CUPPY’S COFFEE: Lawsuits Filed v. Cuppy’s, Elite Manufacturing
August 28, 2008
Visit http://www.clerkofcourts.cc/court/courtsearch.htm.
Do a search for “Cuppys” or “Elite: at this site, you’ll see the listings for a growing number of lawsuits, including these two:
Defendant CUPPYS COFFEE & MORE INC ELITE MANUFACTURING LLC
Plaintiff: RICHARD KYLE Attorney: H WESLEY REEDER
Case Number: 2008 CA 003401 S File Date: 6/18/2008
SUMMONS ISSUED TO: ELITE MANUFACTURING LLC 6/18/2008
SUMMONS ISSUED TO: CUPPYS COFFEE & MORE INC 6/18/2008
SUMMONS ISSUED AMENDED COMPLAINT TO: ELITE MANUFACTURING LLC Receipt: 95453 Date: 08/11/2008
SUMMONS ISSUED AMENDED COMPLAINT TO: CUPPY’S COFFEE & MORE INC Receipt: 95453 Date: 08/11/2008
SUMMONS SERVED AMENDED COMPLAINT: ELITE MANUFACTURING LLC 08/19/08
Defendant CUPPYS COFFEE & MORE INC MEDINA MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES LLC
Plaintiff ROBERT Z KNOX Attorney: MICHAEL T HARPER
CIRCUIT CIVIL FILING FEE Receipt: 95375 Date: 08/08/2008
SUMMONS SERVED: CUPPYS COFFEE & MORE INC 08/14/08 8/15/2008
SUMMONS SERVED: MEDINA MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES LLC 08/14/08 8/15/2008
SUMMONS ISSUED TO: MEDINA MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES LLC Receipt: 95375 Date: 08/08/2008
SUMMONS ISSUED TO: CUPPYS COFFEE & MORE INC Receipt: 95375 Date: 08/08/2008
Additionally, there are rumors of a suit being filed against Cuppy’s Coffee in connection with the franchising of San Gelato Cafes.
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CUPPY’S COFFEE & Funding Solutions LLC
August 28, 2008
On a discussion thread on Blue Mau Mau, Attorney Paul Steinberg posted this disturbing comment:
[Regarding Elite & Cuppy's]…there are unanswered questions which are indicative of fraud:
- There are persons who claim to have obtained funding from various sources, including loans brokered by Funding Solutions LLC .
- According to their website, that company placed over 90 loans at an average of $300,000.
- That equals $27,000,000 of loans, most if not all of that being government-guaranteed.
- Normally, build-out loans are disbursed as the work progresses, and the contractor tenders invoices evidencing progress.
- The contractor so tendering appears to have been Elite.
- Some borrowers allege that their bank fully disbursed the loan monies, but the work was not performed by Elite and/or SBT.
- All of a sudden, Funding Solutions removed any mention of Cuppy’s from their website after a certain Canadian attorney and a certain Pennsylvania bank began asking uncomfortable questions.
- Any person who borrowed money to fund their Cuppy’s should find out if all of the money was disbursed yet, and if the money was all disbursed but the construction not completed, the borrower should have their attorney get involved immediately.
“Wait and see” has not worked.
With the prospect of a investigation of Funding Solutions LLC and Cuppy’s Coffee by the Inspector General of the cognizant federal agency, certain people may be working overtime burning out the motor in the paper shredders even as they counsel others to “wait and see.”
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CUPPY’S COFFEE: Contact Info for New Alabama Home Office
August 26, 2008
Cuppy’s Coffee is moving! Here’s the address below so you can send a Congratulations on Your New Office! card or an office-warming present to Dale Nabors and the newly relocated elite “super scooper” team of employees who “made the cut” and were awarded the opportunity to move to Alabama!
Cuppy’s Coffee New Corporate Address:
Cuppy’s Coffee and More
919 Avalon Ave
Muscle Shoals, AL 35661
Tel: 256-381-6336 Alt tel: 256-381-6077
Fax: 256-381-6461
FEEL FREE TO WISH THE CUPPY’S ELITE TEAM BEST WISHES AT THEIR NEW HOME!
Congratulations to the Cuppy’s Coffee Super Scoopers who were given the chance to relocate, including Robyn, Rudy, Troy, Desiree, Greg, Jessica, Amy, Ted, Frankie, Lou and of course, Dale. May you grow, prosper and quickly repay all of the “involuntary investors” and franchisees awaiting return of their money.
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CUPPY’S COFFEE: Federal Charges, Lawsuit & Other Rumors
August 26, 2008
Lots of rumors and conjecture about Dale Nabors, Elite Manufacturing, the Supreme Building Technologies lawsuit & poor treatment of employees. I’ll toss them out there… please share what you know with a comment below.
Federal criminal complaint filed against Dale Nabors?
I’ve received some vague but credible emails that Dale Nabors was served with Federal Charges yesterday in connection with Cuppy’s Coffee. This comment was also posted anonymously online:
“I was told that Federal charges were served to Dale Nabors yesterday. Does anyone know the particulars? Does this mean we will be getting our money back? Did it have anything to do with him not paying his employees and stealing from them? I understand there have been numerous resignations because of his dishonesty, and cowardly way of meeting with and following up with franchisees. Would be very interested in what happened yesterday when he was served with the Federal charges.”
Others have said that there are charges filed, but they have to do with franchising, not employment infractions.
SBT lawsuit against Elite settled?
Dale has reportedly stated that the SBT lawsuit against Elite Manufacturing has been settled amicably and is no longer an issue. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Cuppy’s Employees sent packing
This week Cuppy’s HQ employees and soon-to-be-ex-employees are packing up the office for the big move from Ft. Walton Beach to Muscle Shoals, AL. Reportedly, laid-off employees were required to help pack if they wanted their unemployment compensation claims to go uncontested.
Additionally, several key employees have resigned as recently as yesterday. This means that there are many out there with lots and lots of inside information who no longer have any vested interest in protecting their higher-ups. If you’ve got a story to share, feel free to email us in confidence at unhappyfranchisee[at]gmail.com.
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