Comments on: CURVES: Robert Lay’s Story

By: Kim Heffington

Kim Heffington — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:29:31 +0000

Unhappy,
Last week you said some new developments would occur at the end of last week concerning CI’s charging closing fees. I haven’t seen anything regarding this. Were there any developments?

By: Next step

Next step — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 04:38:24 +0000

About the WW suit. The damage is done with the relationship we had with local WW sites. Another way CI managed to damage the clubs. Did GH really think that we could compete with them? We are no way even close to them in diet. I am not saying I think the WW diet is better, because I don’t think it is. However, I don’t see how in the world he thought that the commercial would benefit the local curves. I think he just wanted to appease his ego to the detriment of our clubs. I am sure he also wants to get back lost revenue.

Hey maybe he lost his revenue and goodwill of his clubs when he oversold areas, and then he turned his club owners into cut throat bastard like himself. They had mortgages to pay and no cash flow to pay it with.

By: Next step

Next step — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 02:22:00 +0000

Sue,

I know in the end the members are the ones that hurt the most. Anyway your point about the way the owner acted is true. I know that many owners have failed to cancel members, or send payments for transferring members. As bad as CI is so are the owners. Over all a lot of towns will never be able to have another Curves. Well CI may try to sell them (They are saying they are not right now), but I think if a person in a few years tries to reopen in that town they will be destine to fail. Word of mouth is powerful. Isn’t that what Curves used for advertising in the beginning.

By: unhappy

unhappy — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:54:16 +0000

To Sue,
It is such a shame to hear that about an owner but it happens way too much. I know of an owner who sells walking poles and he ran for the CFA in the last elections and won. He was able to use his influence to get CI to approve a walking pole and he has the the rights to sell them now to all Curves clubs. He is now pushing all clubs to start a walking class in order for him to line his pockets off of the sales of walking poles. Nothing but a low life just the same as Howie lies lies and lies. If it sounds like a duck it is a duck and unfortunately this time the guy is a dick trying to make money off of other Curves owners. They should change his name from Don to Donald Duck.

By: Franchise Fire Sale

Franchise Fire Sale — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:09:59 +0000

Craig’s List: “Curves smart system – $1500 (Mesa, AZ)
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Date: 2010-02-17, 6:29PM MST
Reply to: sale-bgmp7-1605642965@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]
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Selling Curves equipment and smart system”

Craig’s List: CURVES FITNESS EQUIPMENT – $100 (5234 W MISSOURI AVE)

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Date: 2010-03-05, 9:37AM MST
Reply to: sale-xeb4y-1629747950@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

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THERE ARE 13 CURVES FITNESS MACHINES AVAILABLE. CURVES FITNESS CLOSED AND ALL WAS LEFT BEHIND. THEY ARE IN EXCELLENT CONDITION. THEY ARE $100 EACH. LOCATION IS AT AUCTION HOUSE. PLEASE CALL 602-885-1149 TO ARRANGE VIEWING AND PICKUP.

By: Franchise Fire Sale

Franchise Fire Sale — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:53:53 +0000

Craig’s List: “Curves fitness center equipment (arkansas) We are getting out of the fitness business and have 14 pieces of commercial quality hydraulic fitness equipment in excellent condition. We also have lots of other fitness equipment including 2 elipticals, recumbant bike, ab lounger and assundry other items. the whole fitness center of equipment for $3,000. Call 479-206-3640 for pictures and details.”

Craig’s List: “Hydraulic Fitness Equipment-used at Hydraulic fitness equipment from a local downtown Curves for SELL! Prices are negotiable! Please call 214-752-0344 and ask for Ashley. ”

“Silent Auction-Closing Curves Fitness Center (Downtown Dallas)”
GOING OUT OF BUSINESS — EVERYTHING MUST GO
SILENT AUCTION
MONDAY, MARCH 1ST – 12 NOON TO 1:00 PM
110 North Akard — Dallas, TX 75201
Cash & Carry
Exercise Equipment
10 piece Curves Circuit Workout Equipment
12 Recovery Boards (See attached description)
1 Curves Stretching Station
3 Exercise Balls
1 Standing Weighing Scale “

By: Franchise Fire Sale

Franchise Fire Sale — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:44:36 +0000

From eBay:
“I have complete set of equipment from a Curves for Women franchise. The owner of the franchise left the equipment after going out of business. It appears to be in very good condition with minimal or no wear. This includes 14 machines, 13 warm up pads, and wall posters. It’s too nice to scrap, I have rented the building to another tenant and need to remove this ASAP. ”
Item location: Berkeley Heights, New Jersey, United States
Ships to: Local pick-up only
Ended: Feb 25, 201011:51:44 PST Bid history: 15 bids
Winning bid: US $1,025.00

“This is the whole package.Each piece is$1200 new.All 13 pieces are in like new condition or excellent condition.There are 13 pieces of equipment and 11 step mats.This item can only be picked up and i will help put in your truck.Store went out of business and need to be moved now.These are not heavy.”
Item location: Boston, MA, United States
Ships to: Local pick-up only

Ended: Feb 27, 201018:26:03 PST
Bid history: 19 bids
Winning bid: US $1,000.00

By: Sue

Sue — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:11:38 +0000

I worked for a Curves, the women who owned it was as crooked at Gary H. They must of taught her well ( CI) she didnt even pay us till 2 months later, and closed 1 week before Chrisitmas 2008, the sad part is she still has one open and closed 3, with-out paying anything she owed back to the customers of the ones she closed, My God, she even kept their stinky shoes. One took her to court, and nothing paid back yet, but she sits there 30 miles away and is open for business, How does that work? The y say its individual franchises , but really owners like that.. hurt everyone,and NO one will ever open one up in the 26,000 pop, place that she closed for crappy, I know in 7 years Curves will be history. or sooner.

By: Closing my Club

Closing my Club — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:10:36 +0000

I think they thought that they could just keep selling and selling and it won’t hurt anyone. Getting greedy like a lot of business do.

Something interesting— I was told by a rep at CI that I would have to return my Curves Smart II once I close so they are sending pre-paid boxes. Well just yesterday I received an email from my Area Director stating that 2 clubs one in MN and one in WI are selling their curves smart II. Why can they sale theirs but I have to send my back so I have sent a email to CI asking the question WHY guess what I haven’t gotten a response.

By: Next step

Next step — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 04:14:03 +0000

I also remember him saying on the stage that some areas were oversold. I really want to say it was regional 07. I was at the one he was. I remember that he talked about the lawsuit that someone from the east coast had filed, and showed a picture of a witch on the big screen. I still had my blinders on at this point. I kept thinking if I could just do a little better it will turn around. Eight months later I go the smart, and another 6 months the blinders were off. I knew that no matter what I did this company was never going to turn around.