GOIN’ POSTAL Responds to UnhappyFranchisee.com’s Franchise Warning
July 23, 2012
Goin’ Postal CEO Marcus Price has responded to UnhappyFranchisee.com’s post regarding the failure rate of Goin’ Postal franchises (See GOIN’ POSTAL Franchise Complaints).
UnhappyFranchisee.com posted concerns related to the 33% SBA loan default rate of Goin’ Postal franchisees, a rate high enough to earn Goin’ Postal a spot in our list of WORST FRANCHISES IN AMERICA (by SBA loan defaults).
The high SBA default rate matches the termination rate of franchises for the past 3 years, as disclosed in the 2012 Goin’ Postal Franchise Disclosure Document (FDD).
At the beginning of 2008, there were 283 Goin’ Postal franchises in operation.
Another 37 were sold, for a total of 320 Goin’ Postal franchises.
Also during that period, 112 Goin’ Postal franchises were terminated (or ceased operation) for a termination rate of 35%.
In the response we received from Goin’ Postal CEO Marcus Price, Mr. Price does not dispute the number of closures. He discusses the reasons for those closures, and points out that Goin’ Postal has fared better than some of the other postal center franchises.
Message from Marcus Price, CEO, Goin’ Postal Franchise Corporation
Good morning.
We just saw this post about Goin’ Postal and I wanted to respond to each of the items specifically.
Firstly, as the CEO of Goin’ Postal Franchise Corporation I take my position very seriously and we strive as a company to make everyone successful. Unfortunately for many reasons not everyone is successful. Looking at the statistics you show, while we did have a net loss of franchises over the course of the 2008 – 2011 period of 7%, or 22 units, that was over the worst part of the recession. By contrast in the same period our similar competitors such as PostNet and Pak Mail had domestic loss rates of 24% and 21% (figures from Entreprenur.com). While each company has a good business model the large problem during the period was real estate costs combined with a slight drop off in business due to the recession. Franchisees that opened at the end of the real estate bubble signed leases with high rent rates due to the lack of commercial space available and when the recession happened and vast numbers of businesses closed up around them there was nothing to justify the high rents they were paying and so multiple units of all brands and industries failed for the same reason.
The personal account from the franchisees doesn’t help us improve anything as it is anonymous and doesn’t allow us to address their problems with them directly but we will respond to their points.
We inform potential franchisees about the shipping industry and that you have no right to ship with any carrier and that is even specified in our FDD. Each carrier is an independent business and as such they make their own decisions. We DO inform franchisees that they may lose their ability to ship UPS but in most cases they do not. This was one of the unlucky franchisees. As for DHL, Every company that shipped with DHL domestic lost the DHL service at the same time when they pulled out of the US and ceased offering anything other than international service. Our stores still offer DHL international services. The franchisees quotes that a single carrier is 30% of your business. With all things equal any carrier will be an equal percentage of your business as the others but if you lose one you do not lose that percentage of your business as customers will merely choose from what is available. Even though our main company store has all the major carriers there is still one carrier that gets 90% of the business as that’s where we steer it as we believe that’s what’s best for the customer.
We almost never sue for liquidated damages unless the franchisee has done something egregious to cause us to. While our franchisees sign a contract agreeing to 3 years of royalties as liquidated damages we ALWAYS work with the franchisee, generally taking their old Point of Sale Systems as a trade off as they are loaded with our proprietary software and we can recondition them for use in our classroom.
Training is NOT about after hours partying. Until several years ago, we did host a Wednesday evening barbeque at our headquarters for incoming franchisees so they could socialize with all of our staff and get to know everyone they would be interacting with. We cooked, supplied drinks, games and regularly played poker (not for money). We did it because we wanted to make franchisees part of our family and so everyone here knows who we are helping on the other end of the phone. For a few years we haven’t done those Wednesday evenings but we are almost ready to start them up again. We take pride in treating franchisees like family, we never thought someone could use socializing as a negative.
We do have other brands and business ventures like all entrepreneurs and large businesses. Whenever we have an idea to cross promote one of our businesses that will help franchisees we allow franchisees to take advantage of those other businesses to offer in their stores. Some ideas and come and go while other stick around for a long time. We also partner with other industries to allow our franchisees to offer additional products In their stores, usually at no cost to the franchisee. Anything we can do to improve profitability is our goal.
It pains me to know this franchisee failed as I take any closure very personally and always think “was there something else I could have done”. While we have a management team to interact with franchisees for every aspect of their business all franchisees know they can always come to me personally with a problem if they feel like they aren’t getting satisfaction with whatever issue they are dealing with.
Ultimately some businesses fail in any industry in any climate but we work hard every day to make our system a success and I always welcome recommendations from current and past franchisees so we can improve our system. Feel free to email me at marcus@goinpostal.com.
Thank you
Marcus Price
CEO. Goin’ Postal Franchise Corporation
4941 4th Street
Zephyrhills, FL 33542
UnhappyFranchisee.com thanks Mr. Price for responding openly to our post, and to participating in the discussion at our website. Our goal is to provide a discussion that spans both sides of an issue so that franchise buyers can make more informed decisions.
We also applaud Goin’ Postal for posting their current Franchise Disclosure Document (FDD) on their website, which enables opportunity seekers with an important due diligence tool early in the process.
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GOIN’ POSTAL Franchise Complaints
July 20, 2012
Goin’ Postal franchise opportunity: What could go wrong with a brand name inspired by mental illness and workplace violence?
Obviously, something IS goin’ wrong with Goin’ Postal.
Data released by the Small Business Administration (SBA) indicates that Goin’ Postal franchise owners who qualified for SBA-backed franchise loans have a high loan failure rate of 33%.
That qualifies Goin’ Postal for inclusion in UnhappyFranchisee.com’s list of WORST FRANCHISES IN AMERICA (by SBA loan defaults)
Are you familiar with the Goin’ Postal franchise opportunity? If so, please share your experience, opinions or insights with a comment below.
If you are a Goin’ Postal franchise representative or employee, please leave a comment or email us at UnhappyFranchisee[at]gmail.com.
Postal center franchises that appear on the WORST FRANCHISES list include AIM Mail Centers (44%), Postal Connections (35%), PostNet (30%), Postal Annex+ (30%) and Pak Mail (28%).
(The UPS Store franchise is not on the SBA worst list, but it is one of the most controversial franchises among franchisees – See THE UPS STORE Franchise Complaints)
Goin’ Postal franchise owners have an alarming 33% SBA default rate.
The apparent drop in Goin’ Postal franchises in recent years is also a cause for concern.
| Goin’ Postal Franchise | |
| Goin’ Postal U.S. franchises in 2008: | 297 |
| Goin’ Postal U.S. franchises in 2011: | 275 |
| Growth in franchise units 2008 – 2011 (#) | -22 |
| Growth in franchise units 2008 – 2011 (%): | -7 |
| SBA loans granted since 2001: | 28 |
| SBA loan failure rate: | 33% |
| Sources: Entrepreneur (growth), Coleman report (SBA) |
The inability to repay an SBA-backed loan (or any franchise loan, for that matter) indicates a serious situation for the franchisee.
It’s likely that Goin’ Postal franchise owners who received SBA loans may have collateralized their franchise loan with their homes or other personal assets, and many were unable to repay those franchise loans… despite the serious incentive to do so.
GOIN’ POSTAL Franchise Complaints
One anonymous Goin’ Postal franchisee warned against investing ion the Goin’ Postal franchise opportunity, writing:
Please, I beg you not to even think about trying Goin Postal, dumped my life savings into this with a lot of promises.
If you read there info they say that you WILL ship UPS, DHL, FedEx and US Mail. What they don’t tell you is that if a UPS store complains on you, that you loose your account, because you are using a personal account in a retail environment. GP resposnse was “oh well, that happens” When it is 30% of your business and there response was “sorry” !!!
Now DHL is gone. Etc Etc.
I closed my store after heavy losses and now they want to sue me for liquidated damages.
They are more interested in taking your money and investing it in there Teenager Loitering Electronic Device, Used Clothing Store, Printing Store etc. When you go to training it is more about the after hours partying then training. Please KEEP your money !!!! I could go on and on.
Are you familiar with the Goin’ Postal franchise opportunity?
What do you think accounts for the SBA loan failure rate of Goin’ Postal franchise owners?
What steps should Goin’ Postal be taking to stop further franchise failures?
Has Goin’ Postal taken serious action to address the problems that led to these loan failures?
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