October 20, 2012
Is AMWAY a Scam? See what former Amway IBOs have to say below. Add your own opinion about Amway.
Have you ever had a good friend or close relative join AMWAY (Mary Kay, Herbalife, Quixtar, Meleleuca, Shaklee, USANA, nuskin, or other mlm, multilevel or network marketing scheme) and suddenly become the annoying sales zombie from hell?
The question came from a comment left on the post “IS AMWAY A GREAT BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY?” thirstyfox claims that Amway/Quixtar is a cultlike scam that makes everyone annoyed with her deluded sister:
My sis was in it once, wasted all her time and in the end made little or nothing.
She got back into it recently against everyones advice. It’s like a cult that turns you against your family so you don’t listen to them. Now she has no time for family, just scamming strangers and wasting her time away with unfullfilled dreams.
The constant meetings are to keep you brainwashed. It’s all a scam and she knows it herself now as she tries to get others in “under her.” Hard to see her as a Christian anymore when she does this, and it’s sad to see all the time she loses when she could be raising her kids.
I’ll never understand how she could be so stupid. I asked her why she got in it last time and she said of course money. Then I asked her what she got out of it and she replied defensivly “I met a lot of very interesting people!” I think that about says it all and if it didn’t work for my sis it won’t work for anyone.
All the BS they tell you about how well this that and the other person did or is doing is all lies so they can get your money. 98% of all Quixtar products are sold ONLY to stupid Quixtar members themselves, yet they go around saying they own a business???
Don’t give them a second of your time.
What do you think? Does Multi-level “Network” Marketing consists of stupid, annoying members selling worthless stuff to other stupid, annoying members? Share your MLM story below.
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April 22, 2012
Amway is an addiction, claims this forlorn fiance.
He missed their wedding shower to go to an Amway conference.
When forced to choose between his future bride and Amway, he chose Amway… despite the fact that, in 2 years, he has no downline and only one customer: his mother.
Is it possible that the Amway multilevel marketing “cult” can be as addictive as gambling, alcohol or drugs?
Share your opinion or experience below.
Amway stole my boyfriend, claims forlorn fiance
Here is the account we received from a forlorn fiance, who wishes to remain anonymous:
“Up until two days ago I was engaged to the man of my dreams. We had great plans for the future…for us…for a family. He had always been in Amway and he never actually worked at it until I pushed him to do it. I told him that if he was going to do it he should do it 100% or he would never see a profit, because he wasn’t seeing one. I challenged him that if he didn’t make a profit or see any prospect that he should quit or drastically cut back on the money he wasted on it. He agreed. Time came…no profit…he didn’t keep his promise.
“Lately, he became more and more distant from me. He wasn’t even himself anymore. He was hiding things from me and I knew he wasn’t happy but he could never put into words why. It was very comparable to someone addicted to drugs and hiding it from their loved ones. I comfronted him about my fears and he only shut me out. He turned me into his enemy. Everything I said was against him and against amway in his opinion. Every decision he made was based on amway instead of based on us.
“One night it got very bad and he randomly stated that he had bought tickets for an amway conference the day of our bridal shower. I know boys don’t usually go to the shower, but he had already promised me he would be there to help clean up afterwards and go through everything with me. I was excited. I knew there was a conference that day, but he promised me he would be there for me. He went behind my back and bought a ticket anyways. I explained to him that it was very hurtful and there would be other conferences, but only one memory of our shower celebrating us.
“He looked me straight in the face without any emotion and said he cared more about amway than he did my feelings.
“Now he says he can’t remember saying it, but he knows he did. This is the kind of mentality and addiction it has become for him. He regrets this action now, but he knows it isn’t exactly something you can just take back. He is sick…just like someone addicted to drugs. Only I don’t know how to help him with this addiction. We couldn’t even go on one date without him trying to contact our waitress/waitor. It consumed his every though like a crack addict desiring one more hit and doing anything to get it.
“I wanted to believe that amway was safe and it could be done in moderation. Hey, I liked the idea of retiring young too. I was there for him and supported him through it all. Now I see that it isn’t right. A half lie is still a lie and amway cannot be done in moderation. A gambler can’t just gamble a “little.”
“At this point I wouldn’t care if amway were possible and being a millionaire was only one contact away. I would rather be homeless than a millionaire and see someone I love so sick and not be able to help them.
“This is the result of amway in my life. I have to watch someone I love deeply be consumed by it and addicted to it and make nothing from it. I fear he will be like that for the rest of his life. It will never be enough. He will always need one more customer, one more prospect.
“He has been in amway 2 years…has no people under him…and no customers but himself and his mother when she can afford it. He did everything they asked, went to the meetings, listened to the cd’s, went out 184.108.40.206.even 7 times a week to contact.
“I even would take him back after everything if he could just give amway up. I tried to be reasonable and accomodating and let him do it as he pleased in moderation. All things in moderation…anything good can be bad if it consumes your life right? Well you can’t do amway in moderation that is what the cd’s and everything teaches…every person you meet is a potential client.
“I would do anything to have the real him back. I know what he said was hurtful, but I also know that it is the addiction talking, but he wont quit.
“I am afraid he will never see the light that it isn’t worth this. He is giving up his fiance and who is to say what is next. His friends…whom he has already lost many…his job as an accountant….his family?”
WHAT DO YOU THINK? HAVE YOU KNOWN ANYONE WHOSE RELATIONSHIPS CHANGED AFTER THEY GOT INVOLVED WITH AMWAY OR OTHER CULTLIKE MLM ORGANIZATIONS? SHARE A COMMENT BELOW.
July 15, 2011
If your parent is an alcoholic, there are many groups (AlaTeen, AlaTot, Adult Children of Alcoholics) available to help you cope.
But what if your parent (or parents) sell Amway?
Unfortunately, UnhappyFranchisee.com is all you’ve got. Think of the comments section below as your personal Adult Children of Amway Salespeople (ACAS) cope group. Feel free to share your thoughts, experiences and feelings so that other ACAS’s don’t feel so alone, and so that potential Amway IBOs (Independent Business Owners) will consider the effect that joining Amway may have on their families.
To start off our virtual ACAS cope session, we will post a message we just received from “R.” R. reports some of the devastating effects that his/her father’s foray into Amway had on him/her and their family. As a result of her father’s Amway pipedream, R.’s family was subjected to financial hardship, embarrassment and loss of friends. R.’s father forced the children to listen to “long, boring tapes,” a practice that many consider child abuse and could have long-term psychological effects.
Here is R.'s story in its entirety. Feel free to add your own or comment below.
“I don’t have a lot to say, I don’t even know details about how the company works, but I do want to share my experience.
“My father has a tendency to trust people who tell him he can make ‘easy’ money. He is a very honest man, don’t take me wrong, but he is also very naive. We have lost a lot of money every time he gets involved in some sort of “business”.
“When I was about 10 years old my father became involved with Amway. He was completely brainwashed by the idea. Everyday, while we were in the car driving somewhere, he would listen to these really long, boring tapes. We would beg him to turn it off, but he said he had to listen to them because he needed to learn. I have no idea what he learned, I guess nothing.
“My mom told him many times that Amway was not a good idea, but he was obsessed. He spent money we didn’t have buying these overpriced, crappy products that we never used, and the stupid tapes he made us listen to. I think he had to pay for seminars too, I am not sure.
“He tried to get other people to join Amway, but everyone was dodging him. He became this really boring “salesman” nobody wanted to talk to.
“Bottom line is he never made a dime. It only cost us money. Instead of being an extra income, it became an extra expense that we could not afford. Finally, he ended up getting out.
“I am not saying it is a scheme, because honestly I don’t know and I could not care less. The truth is, the average Joe that becomes a member doesn’t make any money. The odds are completely against it. My aunt was also a member… I actually thing she was the one who convinced my father to get in… and she didn’t make a dime either.
“I don’t want to offend anybody, but I have seen the consequences of getting involved with this ‘company’… I don’t think it is worth the time or the effort.”
WHAT DO YOU THINK? HAVE YOUR PARENTS BEEN INVOLVED WITH AMWAY? WHAT HAS BEEN THE EFFECT ON YOUR LIFE?
Share a comment or story below.
January 25, 2010
The Wall Street Journal, the largest and most influential newspaper of all time, is now partnering with UnhappyFranchisee.com, a web portal currently powered by a guy in a bathrobe speckled with English Muffin crumbs.
Founded in 1889, the Wall Street Journal has the largest circulation of any newspaper in America (2.1 million, including 400,000 paid online subscribers) and is revered as a journalistic bastion of truth and integrity. In fact, the Wall Street Journal has been awarded the Pulitzer Prize 33 times!
Yes, the two titans of financial journalism, WSJ & UF, have joined forces and inextricably fused their reputations and allied their brand images for all to see!
UnhappyFranchisee.com has arrived! Also in the works are UnhappyFranchisee.com power partnerships with Forbes, Time, Newsweek, BusinessWeek, the Vatican and even FOXNews. Our humble blog is commanding recognition and respect from the biggies, aye? These major brands would not risk their reputation by partnering with just anyone, would they?
How to Use Affiliate Marketing to Fake Credibility
Is the Wall Street Journal really partnering with UnhappyFranchisee.com? Why… sort of!
Many major companies have what’s called affiliate programs where they provide coded ads and offers to people with access to a potential customer base. If someone clicks on one of these coded ads and and buys something, the “affiliate” receives a small referral fee. There is no huge difficulty in getting accepted as an affiliate and most companies just make sure you’re not running a porn site. Once I promised that UF was not engaged in cannibalism or ritual human sacrifice, I was accepted as a WSJ affiliate.
To characterize the affiliate relationship as a “partnership” is misrepresentation at best. And when it comes to unashamed misrepresentation at its best, who can compete with AMWAY?
AMWAY Fights its Sleazedog Image… Again
Despite a 50 year history, 3 million distributors and annual sales exceeding $8 billion, AMWAY has an inferiority complex… and has a long history of unsuccessful attempts at trying to fight off its sleazedog image. For years, AMWAY told its MLM distributors (called IBOs) to avoid using the AMWAY name when inviting prospects to sales presentations (which further reinforced AMWAY’s image as deceivers). Then AMWAY tried changing its name to Quixtar, which didn’t work… and they changed it back.
One of the latest and most embarrassingly misguided AMWAY ploys is their attempt to promote simple affiliate relationships with mainstream retailers as “partnerships.” Here’s how their press release touts their “Best Buy” relationship:
#1 Consumer Electronics Retailer Best Buy Joins Amway Global Partner Stores
A lot of top brand stores have partnered with Amway Global in the Partner Stores & Services area. In this technological era, none is more exciting than the recent addition of number 1 consumer electronics retailer in the U.S., Best Buy.
It seems that Best Buy is not “partnering” at all but merely extending a small referral fee to AMWAY and its distributors that refer them business. But this gives AMWAY IBOs a chance to exaggerate the relationship in fending off those who say AMWAY is a scam. IBO Shekhar added these comments on our lively AMWAY post ( IS AMWAY A SCAM?):
IBM, Microsoft, DELL, AT&T, Dish Network, Visa…..these are some of our partners. Will such companies parter with a Company without checking its market standing ?
…Barnes and Noble, Tmobile, Dell, Dish, Ace Hardware, Sears, AA – have PARTNERED with Amway…..do you understand now ?????? Do you think these companies will “partner” with Ponzi schemes ? do you think they do not have lawyers to check a company out ? Do you think they will partner with a Scam ????
However, other AMWAY IBOs are frustrated by what they see as another thinly veiled deception that will – as always – backfire and cause the opposite of the intended effect.
Here are come comments from the pro-AMWAY comment board AMWAY Talk. Michman wrote:
Personally, I wish the Partner Stores would go away.
In my experience, the Partner Stores only give the curiosity-approachers an excuse to decieve people into seeing the Amway business.
“I am working on an online marketing venture with Bass Pro and Office Depot.”
After the person gets into the business they finally realize that 99.9 percent of their products are going to come from Amway, not Bass Pro or Office Depot.
If Amway in this part of the world isn’t going to make the effort to do good deals, then they shouldn’t do them at all as all it does is give critics legitimate ammunition.
Because partner stores (in this market) often have better deals when you don’t purchase though Amway… the Amway brand is tarnished due to the association with partner stores / non core items.
The argument is that these stores “give us credibility.” Really? I think the negatives (misrepresentation of the business, confusion, non-uniqueness of business model or products) far outweight the positives (supposed credibility).
Well, finally, the AMWAY detractors and supporters can agree on one thing: AMWAY should stop trying to use blatant deception to build a reputation for honesty. Both sides are embarrassed by it.
ALSO READ: IS AMWAY A SCAM?
WHAT DO YOU THINK? SHARE A COMMENT BELOW.